Thread: What sounds do the "3" and "7" stand for

when someone is writing Arabic words in the roman alphabet?

three is Ein
seven is one type of "h"

thanks aasiyah :-)

I thought I remembered the 3 from a med list discussion about the quality of dalah and it was often written as dala3.

Do you know if it is pronounced eye-n or more eee-n?

So dala-ein, sounds like EINy from Habibi Ya Einy by any chance?

The 7... is that the strong breathy kind of H?

Originally Posted by NandaDncer

thanks aasiyah :-)

I thought I remembered the 3 from a med list discussion about the quality of dalah and it was often written as dala3.

Do you know if it is pronounced eye-n or more eee-n?

So dala-ein, sounds like EINy from Habibi Ya Einy by any chance?

The 7... is that the strong breathy kind of H?

3, ein...but make it sound like you're gagging. ,r:;

The 7 is the heavier H, the "I'm breathing my garlic breath on you" H.

Originally Posted by nisaasaintlouis

The 7 is the heavier H, the "I'm breathing my garlic breath on you" H.

..l;,..l;,
that's visual! :D

Hmmm, I'm thinking of the word meaning "I have", which I've seen spelled as 3ndi. Isn't that pronounced AHHHN-dee?

Originally Posted by *Shira*

Hmmm, I'm thinking of the word meaning "I have", which I've seen spelled as 3ndi. Isn't that pronounced AHHHN-dee?

No, not that long on the aaaa. 'I have' is spelled ein--nun--dal--ta marbuta. No 'alif' (long a 'a' sound).

The numbers are used because they somewhat resemble the Arabic letters. '3' looks like the letter 'ein', '7' looks like the letter 'Ha'. I have seen '2' used for a diacritic 'hamza', or glottal stop. My friend calls it Arabish!

Originally Posted by Monica

No, not that long on the aaaa. 'I have' is spelled ein--nun--dal--ta marbuta. No 'alif' (long a 'a' sound).

The numbers are used because they somewhat resemble the Arabic letters. '3' looks like the letter 'ein', '7' looks like the letter 'Ha'. I have seen '2' used for a diacritic 'hamza', or glottal stop. My friend calls it Arabish!

3ndi is pronounced "gagging sound-ndi" where the "i" is between the English short vowels "e" and "i". "3" is a lot easier to type than "gagging sound"...l;,

Originally Posted by leylalanty

3ndi is pronounced "gagging sound-ndi" where the "i" is between the English short vowels "e" and "i". "3" is a lot easier to type than "gagging sound"...l;,

Heee!!!!!!!!!!

Somebody mentioned "Arabish;" I'm also fond of "Englabic."

..l;,..l;,..l;,..l;,..l;,..l;,..l;,

Monica - Nisaa tag team to the rescue! Love It!!..g.:..g.:

When you say gagging sound do you mean glottal stop?

Originally Posted by zumarrad

When you say gagging sound do you mean glottal stop?

No, the hamsa is the glottal stop. "3" (ein) and ghein involve sounds that are produced in the back of the mouth/throat. It really is like gagging, IMO.

Ein (ع)is pharyngeal, so not a fully glottal stop. The throat is involved, though.

To me, the 'ein' is not gaggy, or not noisily so...if people reference gagging, I think of the letter 'kha', sometimes transliterated 'x' (خ).

At risk of being gross, and not at all meant disrespectfully to the Arabic language, of which I am enamored, but when I was first learning I thought of خ as the 'hock a loogie' sound. ع for me was more Chewbacca-esque, physically at least.

Originally Posted by Monica

Ein (ع)is pharyngeal, so not a fully glottal stop. The throat is involved, though.. ع for me was more Chewbacca-esque, physically at least.

What a fantastic description! Chewbacca! ..g.: That's a keeper for my brain!