Thread: Fake nails lifting!

Hey everyone, just getting a bit personal here, but not as much as I could get asking about other things, heh, heh, heh. I have UV gel nails that I love but the darn things lift almost as bad as acrylics (on me, anyway). My wonderful nail artist is going to try a new bonding agent that I don't remember the name of at the moment. She's always very careful when she preps my nails, even using a protein bonder that works on everyone else. I require fills every two weeks on the dot as my grow out is past my moons. Would faster than normal nail growth affect how nail extensions adhere to the nail plate?

Have you tried a different nail place? they onl lift on me when the nail tech isnt careful to file all of the areas of the nail before putting them on and glue them completely. They should remain adhered to your nail or more than likely you will get a nasty fungus.

I used to have very long real nails. Every two weeks I would have my fills done and a new design put on. Several years later I cut them off for my job, and it's take over three years for them to recover from all the acrylic damage that was done to them. So I don't care if I have short nails, at least they're real and healthy now. I'd never go back to having acrylic put on them!

I think acrylic nails are a bit old fashion - none of the two nail techs I regularly go/went to do them. Because, as you say, they are not good for the nails.

I have gel nails and since my nail tech has changed to another gel, they last easily 4 weeks! Before I had to go every 3 weeks and they lifted at the boarders.
So it coud be the material.
But I also think that if your nails grow that fast, they might be a bit soft/week and therefore the nails don't stick so well?

MEISSOUN

I have no idea what could be causing this, though I'm suspicious that it could be the material because I had a set of gels when we got married and they didn't lift AT ALL. I've also jammed my middle finger pretty hard on something so that'll make two nails that will have to be totally replaced. I'm watching closely for any discoloration or weird soreness and so far, so good.

The quality of materials can vary widely; maybe find a new nail tech? Also, longer nails are more likely to lift because of the leverage issue; so keep the length past the tip of your finger to 1/3 the length of your nail bed.

Could be the material-sometimes the quality control may be off in production, it could be the product reacting to your nail bed. It is highly possible it could be the technician-sometimes they slap the tip on so fast instead of taking the time to press it down and ensure the air bubbles are out and it adheres properly. I would try another product first and then a new nail tech....

[QUOTE=mrsnj20;261241]Have you tried a different nail place? [QUOTE]


Hi there,
as I´ve worked as a nail tech and mu artist for 12 yrs before I stopped because of carpal tunnel problems I must chime in here..g.:


Artificial nails are like bellydance costumes,.p::
if one becomes interested it´s easier to spot bad quality and wasted money.
The worst UBDC:s of the nail world is thick or "duck feet"-shaped nails.


Glueing on tips:
NO-I´ve always sculpted instead because the cyanoacrylate (nail glue) breaks down slowly in contact with water.
Cyanoacrylate makes the nails "pop off" and lift-
I used it in beauty school to put on tips,
after more education I decided to save it for silk/glasfiber/linen wraps.

Acrylic,I loved how strong,pinchable and customized I could offer them to my clients!
...even sculpt on larger moons,elongate the nail bed and shape the french line-however she wanted them!

Can´t do that with tips.

Then gels came,I had to roll the forms more to get the sleek form I desired-
but the stench was gone and nails could be super glossy until the next fill(with permanent gel polish)


THIS is what a client who comes back for a fill *should* look like:
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Here´s a fill(rebalance) shown step by step on nails made by a professional nail tech after 8,I say;EIGHT weeks:
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Doozer,does your nails resemble these after 3-4 weeks?
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Change to another nail tech!


Photos:Anna Lajourdie Welcome to beautypro.ca!

Originally Posted by Doozer

Hey everyone, just getting a bit personal here, but not as much as I could get asking about other things, heh, heh, heh. I have UV gel nails that I love but the darn things lift almost as bad as acrylics (on me, anyway). My wonderful nail artist is going to try a new bonding agent that I don't remember the name of at the moment. She's always very careful when she preps my nails, even using a protein bonder that works on everyone else. I require fills every two weeks on the dot as my grow out is past my moons. Would faster than normal nail growth affect how nail extensions adhere to the nail plate?

I too worked as a nail tech.

There are several reasons why nails lift, from poor products and wrong product ratio and poor application and prep, to nail conditions, medication and even stress. Too much vitamin B6 can make your nails lift, as can insulin and thyroid medications. It can be caused by too much primer, contaminated product (some salons conserve monomer by pouring excess used products back into containers for use on next client).

What some people don't generally realise is that it takes 48 hours for acrylic to totally mesh and harden. Therefore, banging the nails around for the first two days causes microscopic fractures and lifting.

Gel is also acrylic...it's just in a different form. Gel is generally much better at adhesion to the nail plate and is great for people who's nails lift with powder and liquid systems. However, I am a believer in using top notch products like Creative, and using a gel overlay to complete the set which generally sorts out lifting problems. What product does your salon use?

If you suffer from lifting... gels are your best bet. But they are not so strong as powder and liquid. Why not try the gel topcoat. But be sure that your tech does not bring the P & L product right up to your cuticle...there should be a tiny gap between product and skin. One of the major causes of acrylic lifting is this abutment of product up against the cuticle.... because it creates a lip beneath which contamination can enter.

Originally Posted by kharis_UK

However, I am a believer in using top notch products like Creative, and using a gel overlay to complete the set which generally sorts out lifting problems. What product does your salon use?

All what Kharis wrote,
especially using good quality products-
not just in the material.
Point is that the company who makes them also back up their stuff,
answers questions and are interested in that "their" techs will have success in every new set.

Kharis,I *miss* the monomer smell!..cr.:

Originally Posted by emma-bessa

All what Kharis wrote,
especially using good quality products-
not just in the material.
Point is that the company who makes them also back up their stuff,
answers questions and are interested in that "their" techs will have success in every new set.

Kharis,I *miss* the monomer smell!..cr.:

You get used to it, don't you. Men hate it. I don't mind either way. Don't like the smell of acid primer though...sour vinegar....erk

Well, I just had my fill and my nail tech used a new primer (which smelled like sweaty feet dipped in vinegar, eww). I can already see white spaces on the sides of my left thumbnail and right middle finger. So far I've needed fills every two weeks because my nails look like the last photo in Emma-Bessa's post at that interval. At forty bucks a pop it's really expensive to maintain my nails and I think I'm ready to find a new nail tech (and I haven't been happy with the shape and thickness). BTW she uses Young Nail products. Opinions?

Originally Posted by Doozer

Well, I just had my fill and my nail tech used a new primer (which smelled like sweaty feet dipped in vinegar, eww). I can already see white spaces on the sides of my left thumbnail and right middle finger. So far I've needed fills every two weeks because my nails look like the last photo in Emma-Bessa's post at that interval. At forty bucks a pop it's really expensive to maintain my nails and I think I'm ready to find a new nail tech (and I haven't been happy with the shape and thickness). BTW she uses Young Nail products. Opinions?

That's an acid primer. It etches the nail plate and helps stop lifting. Yes, it pongs!

If there are spaces of white product then it sounds like it's already lifting. She may have put the product too close to your skin and this creates a lip as the product shrinks as it dries. A good tech will leave a margin around the product and then cover with gel topcoat to seal the breach and discourage lifting. But, lifting occurs eventually on most applications of L & P, particularly if the product is badly applied and the nail plate is poorly prepped.

Never heard of Young Nails products. I always use Creative. It's one of the best. I use Creative Retention, which has good non lifting powers.Try to find a Creative trained tech.