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    Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    I have never been very good with eyeshadow and eyeliner, and I've realized recently it's because of my hooded, down-turned eyes. I've been studying Princess Farhana's tutorial and the previous thread on here about hooded eyes, and I've looked at scads of YouTube tutorials, but I'm still having trouble.

    So, I wanted to post a photo of my bare, naked eye and see if anyone has any particular advice about how I should dress up my eyes for my upcoming, first-ever stage performance. I'm especially stumped about winging my eyeliner, since the eyelid fold extends down past the outside of my eye. If I try it with my eyes open, the line looks distorted when I close them, and vise versa.

    My eyes are hazel, tending toward green and I do love me some pink and purple on my eyes, but I'll be wearing two costumes (red, black, and silver and white, black, and gold) and opting for red lipstick, so and color suggestions would be helpful as well.

    And yes, I know my eyebrows look pretty bad. I'm working on growing them back in on the inner side so they can be shaped properly. Damn those over-plucking demons!

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    Re: Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    I have hooded lids, and the thing that makes the most difference is false eyelashes. So learn to wear them if you don't already. They sort of trump everything else.

    Don't wing your eyeliner, but you can elongate your eye a bit by blending your eyeshadow out on the hooded part of your lide (the upper part).

    Make sure you use quite a bit of eyebrow makeup. Even though your eyebrows are dark, the hairs are shiny and will wash out under stage lights.

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    Re: Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    I'd say line the top lid, but don't wing, and try playing with placing a spot of your brightest colour (or a dark colour!) on the outside part of your upper lid fold, without taking it out beyond the edge of your eyebrow (OK, where your eyebrow would end if you were following the Pencil Rule). There was a trend for it years ago that I used to see in Korean beauty shops but I can't find a picture! It's hard to describe, but it works quite well to give the same sort of uplift and glamour as a really winged eye.

    Your inner corners look nice (stupid remark but they do) and I bet a metallic on there would be great. You could also try dark in the crease, light metallic on the inside of the eye, bright spot on the outer upper lid and see how that works.

    Still not sure about heavy lower lid lining for you. Your eyes are a similar shape on the bottom as mine, ie quite rounded, and if I use a lot of pigment down there it is no longer good.

    It's experimentation time....

    ETA OK I cannot photoshop for the life of me but this is what I mean by a spot:
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    And I am thinking maybe false lashes at the outer corner but they MUST not extend down at the outside of your eye.
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    Re: Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    hello,

    like what Zumarrad said, line the eye like in the picture, but make the line thicker and thicker towards the outer corner. that would raise your eye. when you put on fake lashes, on the outer corner, stay with the top edge of the thick line.

    i hope you understand what i'm trying to say... i don't know how to make picture.

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    Re: Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumarrad View Post
    And I am thinking maybe false lashes at the outer corner but they MUST not extend down at the outside of your eye.
    Yes, and strip lashes can be trimmed to length easily. I buy the "demis" which come a little shorter.

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    Re: Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    I have hooded eyes too and I always had trouble with wing-tipping my liner! Like you said, it folds and looks funny when my eyes are open, BUT I found a way to wing-tip my eyes and make them look normal. I'll try and find a pic that has a close up of my eyes so you can see. If I have time, I'll make a short little video how-to and e-mail it to you. I wing tip my eyes for mermaid shows all the time, so I SHOULD have a close-up on file.

    Everything else that's been said, especially the metallic in the inner eye, is spot on! :)

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    Re: Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    Quote Originally Posted by ssipes View Post
    I have hooded lids, and the thing that makes the most difference is false eyelashes. So learn to wear them if you don't already. They sort of trump everything else.

    Don't wing your eyeliner, but you can elongate your eye a bit by blending your eyeshadow out on the hooded part of your lide (the upper part).

    Make sure you use quite a bit of eyebrow makeup. Even though your eyebrows are dark, the hairs are shiny and will wash out under stage lights.
    Fill in eyebrows, check!

    About false lashes, is there any sort of rule about which styles are flattering for whom? I picked some up for cheap (Review, I think) and played with them last night, and although I got them to stick OK, it was overly-obvious where they began and ended. I trimmed them to start where my naturally lashes start and to end about halfway between the outer edge of my iris and the outer corner of my eye, to try to avoid the "Miss Piggy" look as my lashes plunge downward. Any thoughts on what I did wrong?
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    Re: Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zumarrad View Post
    I'd say line the top lid, but don't wing, and try playing with placing a spot of your brightest colour (or a dark colour!) on the outside part of your upper lid fold, without taking it out beyond the edge of your eyebrow (OK, where your eyebrow would end if you were following the Pencil Rule). There was a trend for it years ago that I used to see in Korean beauty shops but I can't find a picture! It's hard to describe, but it works quite well to give the same sort of uplift and glamour as a really winged eye.

    Your inner corners look nice (stupid remark but they do) and I bet a metallic on there would be great. You could also try dark in the crease, light metallic on the inside of the eye, bright spot on the outer upper lid and see how that works.

    Still not sure about heavy lower lid lining for you. Your eyes are a similar shape on the bottom as mine, ie quite rounded, and if I use a lot of pigment down there it is no longer good.

    It's experimentation time....

    ETA OK I cannot photoshop for the life of me but this is what I mean by a spot:
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    And I am thinking maybe false lashes at the outer corner but they MUST not extend down at the outside of your eye.
    You may say you can't Photoshop, but I think this was genius! I had never thought about putting the bright color anywhere but the lid, which of course never shows much. I love it! This is kind of how I've been wearing my darker crease color on an everyday basis, bringing it up above the crease on the outer half of my eye, but not as high as your picture shows. It looks nice on me, but I had never thought of putting my showy "lid" color there. It does look glamorous!

    I wondered, though, how my eyelid ought to look when closed. Should the bright color continue straight down? Make sort of a triangle shape as it gets bigger coming down? Sweep across my (hidden) crease with another color on the lower lid? Or sweep across the entire lower lid? I tried some different things last night, but I'm so inexperienced with all this I couldn't really say which looked best.

    I also tried a darker color in the crease, but it doesn't show up at all when my eye is open. If I try bringing it up high enough to see, it competes with the bright color, so I wonder if the darker crease color is really worth doing. Perhaps it would at least look better when my eye is closed?

    You're right that highlighting the inner corner with shimmery or metallic colors looks nice on me. And that liner on the lower lashes is not good for some reason. I wish I understood why, exactly! I should still wear mascara there, right?
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    Re: Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    Quote Originally Posted by wingaki View Post
    hello,

    like what Zumarrad said, line the eye like in the picture, but make the line thicker and thicker towards the outer corner. that would raise your eye. when you put on fake lashes, on the outer corner, stay with the top edge of the thick line.

    i hope you understand what i'm trying to say... i don't know how to make picture.
    Yes, I think I do understand, and maybe this would solve my problem of the lashes looking unnatural where they end. I gave this a try last night, though, and without my lashes to rest against, it seemed like the falsies wanted to kind of twist downward. I think my upper eyelid actually pushes on them, weird as that sounds! I wonder if I was putting them on incorrectly somehow? I certainly wouldn't put it past me!
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    Re: Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    Quote Originally Posted by ssipes View Post
    Yes, and strip lashes can be trimmed to length easily. I buy the "demis" which come a little shorter.
    Oh, I somehow missed your comment here about the demis. I guess that's probably what I want. Do you still trim your demis at all, or are they the correct size for you right from the package?
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    Re: Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    Quote Originally Posted by eden_eyes View Post
    I have hooded eyes too and I always had trouble with wing-tipping my liner! Like you said, it folds and looks funny when my eyes are open, BUT I found a way to wing-tip my eyes and make them look normal. I'll try and find a pic that has a close up of my eyes so you can see. If I have time, I'll make a short little video how-to and e-mail it to you. I wing tip my eyes for mermaid shows all the time, so I SHOULD have a close-up on file.

    Everything else that's been said, especially the metallic in the inner eye, is spot on! :)
    I would love to see a picture, or a video if you have the time!
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    Re: Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexa View Post
    Yes, I think I do understand, and maybe this would solve my problem of the lashes looking unnatural where they end. I gave this a try last night, though, and without my lashes to rest against, it seemed like the falsies wanted to kind of twist downward. I think my upper eyelid actually pushes on them, weird as that sounds! I wonder if I was putting them on incorrectly somehow? I certainly wouldn't put it past me!
    yes the fake lashes want to twist downward, i just twist them up. if you buy the thin soft one it's easy.

    the smaller pieces of lashes like the other mentioned are easier to apply. but don't buy the little little one, very hard to adjust the angle. i like the one that is 1/4 length of the whole thing.

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    Re: Need help getting my hooded eyes ready for stage!

    I have very hooded, deep-set eyes, same colour as yours, and I tend use one shimmery colour all over the lid (in my case gold as it compliments my skin - silver or a bronze colour would also work) and then a darker shade along the top lash line. These work well:

    Dazzle Dust - Barry M

    Its almost like they made specifically for dancers! So pretty, and in so many different colours!

    Then I line and slightly wing the top lid with black liquid eyeliner and lightly smudge the botton lash line with black or grey kohl pencil. Its much softer and stops you looking tired.

    False lashes are a must!

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