Thread: Goblet Dancing Video?

Goblet dancing has been on my mind for some time, and as coincidence would have it, I ordered a set of suitable goblets just before Rakkasah - where I saw not only my very first goblet performance, but one that was impossibly difficult as well!

Anyways, does anyone know of any resources? A video would be GREAT, a website would be good. Personal anecdotes are welcomed as well.

I have an article on this topic on my website at: http://www.americanistan.com/id62.html

There are links to other resources, including a couple of video clips, though I haven't tested these links in awhile.

My first post on the new Bhuz!

What is goblet dancing?

Thanx Dunyah! I like the links, although I haven't explored them yet. I'm actually thinking of (long term) doing this with my Shemadan!

Originally Posted by sumayasaahir

What is goblet dancing?

Thats when your dancing on like wine glasses that are like goblet shape for strength. Tiffany put on a dance at Rakassah dancing on glass goblets (wine glasses?) Then she did the splits while balancing on them. It was very impressive from what I heard.

I dance on goblets (glasses) I have a video somewhere I need to dig up.
THen figure out how to get it on dvd and get it on utube or whatever.
I barely figured out my ipod, i haven't tackled getting my vids up on u tube yet.
Anyhow, I HIGHLY recommend doing a private lesson with someone who does it.
I have tips for ya, but I gotta run right now.
the biggest tip for now is "mind over matter"
and "Make your energy and weight "lift up" and not grounded.
Hard to explain, but easy to show....
good luck

Originally Posted by Lucinia

Thats when your dancing on like wine glasses that are like goblet shape for strength. Tiffany put on a dance at Rakassah dancing on glass goblets (wine glasses?) Then she did the splits while balancing on them. It was very impressive from what I heard.

That's the one I saw - yea it was INCREDIBLY impressive. I can't do the splits under any circumstances; the amount of leg strength Tiffany must have to hold the goblets "in" whilst doing the splits must be awesome!

Can anyone give some tips on buying suitably strong goblets? A friend of a friend who does goblet dancing has apparently had some luck at IKEA. What should I look for in prospective goblets?

Look for goblets that do not have seams, but they are very hard to find at the moment, due to manufacturing process. Make sure there are "no" cracks, even small minute ones, (which you always have to check for) I buy 6 so I always have 2 replacements.
My goblets are heavy glass ones with a nice strong stem and a nice base to rest your feet.
I found mine at Crate and Barrell.

SF area dancer Luna does a goblet balancing dance on the By Dancers For Dancers DVD.

M.

Originally Posted by zorba

I'm actually thinking of (long term) doing this with my Shemadan!

Oh, and this reminded me that Luna does it with a flaming sword!
She teaches in Berkeley, fyi.
M.

Originally Posted by *maria*

I dance on goblets (glasses) I have a video somewhere I need to dig up.
THen figure out how to get it on dvd and get it on utube or whatever.
I barely figured out my ipod, i haven't tackled getting my vids up on u tube yet.
Anyhow, I HIGHLY recommend doing a private lesson with someone who does it.
I have tips for ya, but I gotta run right now.
the biggest tip for now is "mind over matter"
and "Make your energy and weight "lift up" and not grounded.
Hard to explain, but easy to show....
good luck

sweetie I don't think you have to upload them on u-tube you should be able to upload them here in the video section....

Originally Posted by zorba

Goblet dancing has been on my mind for some time, and as coincidence would have it, I ordered a set of suitable goblets just before Rakkasah - where I saw not only my very first goblet performance, but one that was impossibly difficult as well!

Anyways, does anyone know of any resources? A video would be GREAT, a website would be good. Personal anecdotes are welcomed as well.

Here's a video clip of UK bhuzzer Sara Shrapnell dancing on glasses:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-IPBMxKfII

Sara, like me, dances on really strong tumblers as opposed to goblets but the skills required are pretty much the same. When I first learnt 20 odd years ago I used what I think would be called sundae dishes. They look like goblets only they have a wider cup with thick stems and are very strong.

Thanks for posting Sara's video. It gave me some new ideas...
I liked the way she first made a show of the glasses before dancing on them.
I think I have to create a new glass dance number!

MEISSOUN

Originally Posted by meissoun

Thanks for posting Sara's video. It gave me some new ideas...
I liked the way she first made a show of the glasses before dancing on them.
I think I have to create a new glass dance number!

MEISSOUN

Like Sara I get an assistant to come on with them part way through, and I like what Sara does as it builds up the anticipation nicely. I think it's quite good to prove to your audience that there are no tricks or cheats involved - they are doubly impressed then!

I usually only do my goblets number at the folk festival here in boulder, and I always make a show to the crowd so they see that the glasses are real.
Anyone who wants to learn, I really do reiterate you should take a lesson with someone who does it, or at least have an experienced dancer in the room with you. the most dangerous part is getting up and down from them, that is where they can break and you can get hurt, don't want to scare anyone, but you must respect that you are dancing on glass with your bare feet!
Another tip I have is you must have good core strength and balance, take some yoga classes if you need to develop in that area.
good luck everyone!

I found this video too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z3HhTt4P1g

Originally Posted by *maria*

I usually only do my goblets number at the folk festival here in boulder, and I always make a show to the crowd so they see that the glasses are real.
Anyone who wants to learn, I really do reiterate you should take a lesson with someone who does it, or at least have an experienced dancer in the room with you. the most dangerous part is getting up and down from them, that is where they can break and you can get hurt, don't want to scare anyone, but you must respect that you are dancing on glass with your bare feet!
Another tip I have is you must have good core strength and balance, take some yoga classes if you need to develop in that area.
good luck everyone!

Yes, I couldn't agree more! You really do need to have a strong sense of balance, and you should test the glasses out very carefully before you start using them.

I'm interested in what other people use to put the glasses on. I use a small tray with a low lip to it. This stops the glasses from slipping about too much, and of course it's something handy for my assistant to bring them in on.

I have a really nice 3 x 2 oriental rug that I put them on. It keeps them from slipping, and because I do my glasses dance at the folk festival, which is outdoors on a wooden dance stage, it's the best thing. I make a big show of calling my assistant in to put down the small rug and showing the audience the glasses, etc.

The second Youtube video reminds me of Charmaine -- a Chicago based dancer (and an early instructor of mine) in the 60s-80s. I uploaded a photo of her dancing on what look like tumblers, rather than glasses, from the latter 1970s. Tried to insert it, but can't figure out how..c:: -- so here's a link! LOL

http://www.bhuz.com/index.php?cmd=/p...ploaded_348/0s.

..g.:

Originally Posted by acmcgraw

I found this video too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z3HhTt4P1g

That was very nice! thanks for sharing

Originally Posted by Lucinia

That was very nice! thanks for sharing

Thanks! I've found this thread very interesting.

I'd never seen dancing *on* the glasses before, but had seen lots of the "showing the audience the glasses" moves from Sara's video, nor did I have any idea you could use normal glasses!

I'm inspired! ..g.: Too bad I don't think anyone local does the on the glasses stuff.

Originally Posted by afra14

Yes, I couldn't agree more! You really do need to have a strong sense of balance, and you should test the glasses out very carefully before you start using them.

Yea!

I tested mine by standing on them, ONE at a time in my shoes, balanced on one foot and bouncing up and down "carefully". That should have been far more stress than they'll ever see performance wise.

They held!

.w.:

I've never seen them, but I understand both Veda Sereem and Leyla Hazine both have instructional videos on goblet dancing. A google search should find them!

All the best,

Nikki

Originally Posted by acmcgraw

Thanks! I've found this thread very interesting.

I'd never seen dancing *on* the glasses before, but had seen lots of the "showing the audience the glasses" moves from Sara's video, nor did I have any idea you could use normal glasses!

I'm inspired! ..g.: Too bad I don't think anyone local does the on the glasses stuff.

You do need to be sure of using very strong glasses. Mine are made of really thick chunky glass, with no seams as mentioned above. They look like heavy duty versions of the water glasses you sometimes get in restaurants, and I tested them verrry carefully first!
..g.:

Something else that has just occurred to me - think carefully about where you will perform it. The audience needs to be able to see what you are doing, so a raised dance area or stage is a good idea. Otherwise people further back will not know what you are doing and therefore the impact is lost.

Originally Posted by nikkiraqs

I've never seen them, but I understand both Veda Sereem and Leyla Hazine both have instructional videos on goblet dancing. A google search should find them!

All the best,

Nikki

Thanx *SO* much! I wasn't able to find Leyla, at least with that spelling, but Veda came right up. I've never heard of her before, obviously I need to get out more!

Anyone have the vid of Tiffany doing the splits? Very hard to imagine how she did that in my head lol...

Originally Posted by zorba

Thanx *SO* much! I wasn't able to find Leyla, at least with that spelling, but Veda came right up. I've never heard of her before, obviously I need to get out more!

You're very welcome!

I looked at my bookmarks and found Leyla's website address... http://ssbellydance.tripod.com/id3.html

She does, as I thought have a video...it's called "Desert Orchid". I do have a couple of her other videos (not the goblet one), which I haven't watched for a long time...I know she makes them herself, and I think she packed a lot into her "moves" video, but I can't remember anymore about them.

The prices look good,

Package: Video, Notes, Practice CD $20 each
Video Only $15 each (3 or more $12.50 each)

All the best!

Nikki

Originally Posted by zorba

Yea!

I tested mine by standing on them, ONE at a time in my shoes, balanced on one foot and bouncing up and down "carefully". That should have been far more stress than they'll ever see performance wise.

They held!

.w.:

Post pics! post pics! I want to see them!!!..g.: