Thread: Next advance for instruction - the Wii

Does anyone else see that it could be really fun & instructional to move from DVD instruction to a Wii-style? BDWii! Not only could you see the instruction, but it would be great to be able to learn by mimicking the movements (or whatever) and get instant feedback through a sensor system that would detect how you move and how it differed from the instruction.

Not as good as real live instruction, but it could be great for drilling. Maybe it would be supplied with a bedlah that would record your moves - or maybe a whole sensor suit....

I could totally see it for learning zills.

Wow what didn't any of us come up with this before? Great idea!

Alrana

That would be great!

That is great!

Did you know that XBOX 360 is coming out with something similar to the Wii? That would be great for XBOX users, since we have this instead of the Wii.

I my Wii. I left it at home and I miss it. ..cr.: I can imagine the snash it's going to give me when I get home: "Where have you been, Jen? It's been 378 days since your last training session". Little electronic dude makes me feel so guilty... ..l;,

BD Wii (BiiDii?) would be awesome!!! Even as a little add on. Hipcircles could easily be built on the Hula Hoop style thing, giving you the little drawing of how round your circles are. And Wii zills.... what a good idea!

You should write to Nintendo and get that patented.

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great idea!!

WiiZiils ..l;, it could be in a GuitarHero format! pick a song, and it tells ya when to hit. LRL, LRL, LRLRLRRLRLRLRRRLRLRLRL!!! ..l;,..l;,..l;,

In order to make this happen, all it needs are connections to a CS department. Instructors are always looking for ideas for cool projects, and this could be a great term project for e.g. an interface design class (and this looks like the ideal problem for such a course because it requires a non-standard interface, and working out the specs from observation). This may require a firm time commitment and a well-specified proposal, though.

Hm, I should chat with my husband and his students, one of them is interested in ME dance.

my bro is studying programming but he doesn't give a *** abt bellydance lol...
would be really neat if someone did manage to get this done!!

another idea: also in GuitarHero format, learning to drum! ^^

In Japan they have just this sort of thing for Hula-I am so jealous!
Nikki

that would be awesome!!
my bro can't figure out how i can do the hula hoop exercise they have for 30 minutes..i told him its like doing hip circles in belly dance! just over and over again LOL needless to say no one has yet to beat my highest score haha

Thank you thank you all for liking my idea.

The next level of advancement would be that you could upload images of yourself and then model costumes while you practice. You could really see whether the cossie looks good or awful.

Dang, I want to do that with everything I order -- an interactive fashion catalog.........Victoria's Secret here I come.

Originally Posted by zfejzic

that would be awesome!!
my bro can't figure out how i can do the hula hoop exercise they have for 30 minutes..i told him its like doing hip circles in belly dance! just over and over again LOL needless to say no one has yet to beat my highest score haha

One of my students says she can cream her kids on the WiiFit hula hoop - it's just like doing ommis!

at this point, it's really gonna be a race to see which belly dancer patents It first, whatever incarnation of a belly dance Wii Fit "It" will end up being, cuz I've totally had this discussion after dance class as well, and of COURSE it was the 1st thing to pop into my mind when I started the balance training exercises!

"ah man...I'm s'posed to stand so still and not move the dot, but with my feet planted like this, I just wanna see what the dot would do if I were maya-ing/back 8'ing!"

[ame=http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2678904/wii_belly_dancing/]WII Belly Dancing - Video[/ame]

apparently this person has thought of it too. They called the video Wii Bellydance and undre it was a comment asking poeple who are interested to go to the website.

Originally Posted by PetiteNadirah

WII Belly Dancing - Video

apparently this person has thought of it too. They called the video Wii Bellydance and undre it was a comment asking poeple who are interested to go to the website.

OMG That was one of my first Bellydance experiences in fact the performances at the end with the credits rolling over was the reason I started looking for teachers! AHahahahah..l;,

Is that Veena and Neena or a different set of twins? I can't tell for some reason. Usually I thought Veena and Neena spoke in their videos and didn't have voice overs... but then again I don't really watch them so maybe I've forgotten.

Originally Posted by PetiteNadirah

Is that Veena and Neena or a different set of twins? I can't tell for some reason. Usually I thought Veena and Neena spoke in their videos and didn't have voice overs... but then again I don't really watch them so maybe I've forgotten.

Yes it is. This is the first DVD I bought before I found a teacher! But there's voiceovers over everything.

Did I miss something? That looks like a instruction DVD (I admit I left the sound off); I was thinking of a system that would translate your actual movements to something on the screen and then 'shape' and drill your technique to what it 'should' look like.

Originally Posted by Slave

"ah man...I'm s'posed to stand so still and not move the dot, but with my feet planted like this, I just wanna see what the dot would do if I were maya-ing/back 8'ing!"

That's exactly the bit I thought was most useful for us, to see where your actual centre of gravity is and be made to correct! I also wondered if it would help beginners to shoulder shimmy without moving the rest of their body.

And for drills, the little Wii Fit can tell which side your weight is on, so it can provide some music (or even just a count, like the freestyle Step thing) for you to practise 8's and undulations in differing timescales... work in some quick repetitions and then some sloooow, back to quick and you're onto a good fat burner there too!

Seriously, I hope someone's working on this. I would sooooooooo buy it. ..g.:

Yes! It would be soooooooooooooo cool. In my imaginary Wii world - it could monitor your posture too -- everything you did would show up on-screen (or recorded so you could playback). Of course, I'm still waiting for the STNG Holodeck.

Originally Posted by BELLA_BELLA

Did I miss something? That looks like a instruction DVD (I admit I left the sound off); I was thinking of a system that would translate your actual movements to something on the screen and then 'shape' and drill your technique to what it 'should' look like.

I totally agree, I had just typed in Bellydance for Wii (or something like that) and it came up with that veena and neena video titled Wii Bellydance with a thing asking anyone interested to visit the website. I dunno..

I would like it better if it worked like the hula hoop thing or that Japanese hula dance one someone mentioned (they have a commercial for it on youtube somewhere)

if it were created properly, is it too much to wish for the idea that it might be able to keep a possible baby belly dancer from hurting her lower back??
i'd also like a wii unicorn I could ride, for that matter, hah, but still ! I think it might be possible!

Originally Posted by Slave

if it were created properly, is it too much to wish for the idea that it might be able to keep a possible baby belly dancer from hurting her lower back??

I think it could - if it combined showing the little instructor animation in profile softening the knees and tucking in the pelvis, while showing (maybe in a split-screen stylee) the little red centre of gravity dot and making her try to keep it in the centre.... there's your very first exercise before building in actualy movements.

Then it should be the same as the other Wii Fit exercises - you can't get access to certain movements until you've spent X amount of time on the preceding basic (or once you receive a satisfactory score).

I am geekily over-excited by the mere prospect! ..l;,

There are so many ways it could help technique, especially if you're like me and you start out ok, but start to drift into bad posture, chicken wings, etc. And if there was some playback - you could do spins, hair flipping, floorwork ,etc - which are hard to do AND keep an eye on yourself at the same time.

And I still like the idea of play testing costumes. Oops? Is that what my butt looks like in these pants? Oh gods, that green makes me look leprous!

Originally Posted by wigglewhiz

Then it should be the same as the other Wii Fit exercises - you can't get access to certain movements until you've spent X amount of time on the preceding basic (or once you receive a satisfactory score).

I am geekily over-excited by the mere prospect! ..l;,

*les sigh* if only beginning dance classes actually worked that way, too. If I hadn't been told about Turkish Drops that first year I was learning, that would have saved me some insane thigh pain one regretful morning...

Originally Posted by wigglewhiz

That's exactly the bit I thought was most useful for us, to see where your actual centre of gravity is and be made to correct! I also wondered if it would help beginners to shoulder shimmy without moving the rest of their body.

And for drills, the little Wii Fit can tell which side your weight is on, so it can provide some music (or even just a count, like the freestyle Step thing) for you to practise 8's and undulations in differing timescales... work in some quick repetitions and then some sloooow, back to quick and you're onto a good fat burner there too!

Seriously, I hope someone's working on this. I would sooooooooo buy it. ..g.:

So you're suggesting a DDR/WiiFit game? :D I have always wanted to try DDR and not be a total maroon!!! If it were bellydance related I could win every time!!! Plus, I am really heavy on my feet when I dance and I would definitely break the poor WiiFit.

One thing I would think would take some tweeking in the construction of the program would be how large the move was on different people. If you're a thinner gal you probably aren't going to do the moves near as big as I would. And would it leave room for adding in new moves? You create the new move then you add it to your drills workout?

I hope someone from one of these large corporations is reading this. I don't own a Wii fit or any other game thing but I would buy for something like this!