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    Charge for student troup practices....

    Ok so Im not sure what to do here, I have never been here before. So I have students that like to do festivals and things on the base, they are a small troup that I call Flaming Hips, We are small and ususlly in the past have not had a troup class/practice but I am thinking about for 2008 to have a student troup group and putting them all in 1 class, I should charge for this right? Is there a reason I wouldnt? and If the class doesnt work and we just do troup practices do I charge for that as well? Just not sure, any thoughts?


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    Re: Charge for student troup practices....

    my troupe members have to take one class with me (and pay for it) and attend weekly rehearsals. they pay a troupe membership of 35E per term, which includes room rental for all rehearsals, i use it to pay a make up artist when we have a show, and to pay for my own expenses.


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    Re: Charge for student troup practices....

    My troupe members are not required to take classes with me...big mistake...long story...wish I could do over...however troupe dues are collected monthly and a set portion of that is used to defray studio expenses. It aint much, but at least they are contributing to the financial wellfare of the studio. The troupe then uses the studio for rehearsals every week. I have one troupe member who likes to teach what she calls tribal fusion, and I charge her for the time she uses the studio for her 2 classes per week, and then the troupe is free to use the studio after her classes are done for the rest of the afternoon.


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    Re: Charge for student troup practices....

    so i was thinking of running it like a class calling it advanced/performance or something like that and charging the $10 i usually do for classes, it is in my home so it is $100% profit, other than i make some of the costume pieces that I keep but they use, they borrow my props not all do but some do....so is charging appropritae? Oh and some still need major work this is NOT a pro troup


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    Re: Charge for student troup practices....

    I think so Annwyn, if you start a performance troupe...even for no pay...they still need to repect you as a teacher. I am sure you have heard the old saw..the value of services recieved is greatly diminished after services have been rendered. Dont head down my path...its a road that heads straight to belly dance hell. ;-}


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    Re: Charge for student troup practices....

    ok great I just needed reassurance


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    Re: Charge for student troup practices....

    Quote Originally Posted by annwyn View Post
    so i was thinking of running it like a class calling it advanced/performance or something like that and charging the $10 i usually do for classes, it is in my home so it is $100% profit, other than i make some of the costume pieces that I keep but they use, they borrow my props not all do but some do....so is charging appropritae? Oh and some still need major work this is NOT a pro troup
    Because we're talking about students and NOT professional dancers, I agree with your idea of calling it "Performing Skills" class (I would NOT call it "advanced") and charging your normal class fee for it.


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    Re: Charge for student troup practices....

    I know a few teachers who call this sort of class a Repertory Class, indicating that its primary function is preparation for performances.

    I have a student troupe and we have rehearsals in my home studio. I do not charge them, but I realize I'm in the minority on this. The main reasons are:

    1) I don't want anyone to feel like they're owed a performance spot just because they've been paying me. If someone doesn't know the choreo and I have to cut them from a performance, I don't want to deal with the, "But I've been paying for rehearsals, you have to let me perform!" whine. This may be left over from my dance studio days, where paying for class does indeed automatically get you a spot in the recital, no matter how unprepared you are.

    2) I don't want to depend on the income. This way, I do the troupe because I want to and it's a rewarding experience for me. If there's too much drama, or if people's interest wanes, I can just scrap the troupe without worrying about how I'm going to replace the income.

    That said, I believe we are going to need to rent practice space if we get new members in January. My studio was bursting at the seams with just the 7 members these last few months. I will be instituting troupe dues to cover the cost.


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    Re: Charge for student troup practices....

    Annwynn, so funny -- I have a group just like this, mine is called Hips Afire!

    I call it a 'repertory class,' or 'repertory group' which is just vague enough to be really useful. Troupe to me implies a whole lot of stuff I don't want to do, like exclude people, seek out paying work, etc.

    My rep class meets on Saturday mornings. To participate, students must also be enrolled in the Wednesday night level 4 choreography class (ideally, they've been there for 6 months or so). I break down & teach the choreos on Wednesdays. On Saturdays, we just work on staging, polishing, and keeping our repertoire of dances shined up and ready to go on a moments' notice.

    Only my rep group performs for the general public. All my classes perform in my annual student show, and the level 4 group can perform at closed events, like haflas.

    Students pay for my rep class, but I give a 25% discount to anyone who enrolls in more than one class with me, so of course they all get the discount. I wind up using the money to buy props for the group (wings, veils) and part of it pays, of course, for the studio and for my time. When there's a show coming up (so, most of the time....) I wind up giving up a free hour of my time after class on both Wed & Sat to help rehearse people, but I don't mind. It's fun for me.

    You can see how mine is set up on my site: Lotus Arts Studio - Yoga, Bellydance and more in Belleville, IL if it helps you.


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    Re: Charge for student troup practices....

    Thanks guys, this really helps me clear up the confusion in my head on what I should do.

    The only problem with me, is This would be for the people that want to perform ONLY, So that makes about 3-4 girls very small, but my classes are small to start with. I wish putting a 6 month time limit on it would work but it wont becuse many people are here for only 1 year or 3 years, many of them are here for only a few months, I want to provide what they could get in the states but obviously I have a very short time for each student. So it will be only for those that have experience through me and other teachers, that want to perform in the summer festivals and student shows......Thanks for all the help


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