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    what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    Hi Guys,

    I had a workshop with sharon kihara and we was doing tons of the upwards vertical 8's (the opposite to a maya) she gave them a name which had something like 'tox' in it. I am really struggling to do these flat footed and was wanting the name for them so i could do a search.

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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    Tribal dancers call them "Taxim", I think because of Carolena in FatChance.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    I call them "hiprolls". I have heard other people call them Taxims and vertical down 8's because they go down in the middle.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    They are th ones where you scoop up the hip. The direct opposites to the maya. I can now maya flat footed but cannot do the reverse. It is really stressing me out now hehehe.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    I was taught them as "hip lift sways"; I teach them as "figure8 up"


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    Quote Originally Posted by shems View Post
    Tribal dancers call them "Taxim"
    Which makes me gnash my teeth. But that's just me.

    When I first learned this move, it was called "snake hips."


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    I think you had it right the first time, upward vertical figure 8, no room for confusion there.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    I call them upward figure eights!


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    I call them vertical figure 8's!

    As always, there's a thousand names for every move! ..l;,

    I'd forgotten taxim. I like to be able to tell people various names for the move so they aren't confused if they go to another teacher or a workshop.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    vertical figure 8s down to up


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    we call them reversed maya's :-)
    But I've heard taxim before too!


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    we call them "Gushi" not sure if it is spelled correct or where the name came from.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    I call them Up Vertical Figure 8's.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    Quote Originally Posted by Tribal_Butterfly View Post
    They are th ones where you scoop up the hip. The direct opposites to the maya. I can now maya flat footed but cannot do the reverse. It is really stressing me out now hehehe.
    Don't worry, I can't do the upward 8's without bringing my heel off the floor at least slightly (usually more).


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    I think one is always easier than the other. Doing a maya for me is much, much easier than a taxeem.

    As for the name, I first learned them as vertical figure 8's up (and mayas were the down ones). I started using the other names when I got into tribal, but I think I prefer vertical figure 8 name.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    Quote Originally Posted by spicedjellybeans View Post
    Don't worry, I can't do the upward 8's without bringing my heel off the floor at least slightly (usually more).
    I can finally do both flat-foooted, but I find the up one to be WAY harder without lifting the heels.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    Quote Originally Posted by Georgine View Post
    we call them "Gushi" not sure if it is spelled correct or where the name came from.
    us too! ..l;,


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    I had a teacher who called them "into the ground" and we never got confused. But I think of them more as reverse mayas.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    "reverse Maia", "Gooshie", "figure-8 down to up". Any of these in my neck of the woods.

    Whatever you call it, I find Maias MUCH easier than this move for some reason - fortunately, one of my teachers has drilled these into us like crazy so I'm much better at 'em now.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    my favourite move...( next to hagalla) so much so that a fellow teachers students christened me 'the snake woman' after they saw me dance for the first time! I learned to do it flat footed by bending my knees much more... but you can do alot more variations by lifting the heels, like putting a little shimmy on the 'in and down' bit... I know that tribal style tends to be much more grounded though. good luck!


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    Quote Originally Posted by LunaBelgium View Post
    we call them reversed maya's :-)
    That's what I call them too!
    Last edited by ouroboros; 06-08-2009 at 02:59 PM. Reason: clarity


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    I used to call them reverse mayas, too!

    I also call the hip sways.

    I really like descriptive names for things, so I usually call them an upwards vertical figure 8. Heel up and heel down versions. Heel up is easier.

    Deborah


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    They are called sways around here.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    Quote Originally Posted by Rya_of_Indiana View Post
    I call them vertical figure 8's!
    Me too - I learned them back in the 80s. All the different names........

    I did learn the forward-step, back step movement as a "beledi" step - it went with the dum-dum-tekka-tek-dum-tekka-tek when you did it twice. Go figure.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    I'm think sharon kihara called them "taxeem" in the workshops I took with her. that's what we call them in my ITS tribal class - as someone else said, it's the name carolena nericcio (fcbd) gives it so it's pretty widely used in tribal based styles from what I can tell. ... we just call them upward 8s in my cabaret class.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    Quote Originally Posted by Taj View Post
    Which makes me gnash my teeth. But that's just me.
    Actually, it drives me crazy too. Taxim is a musical term. I understand that belly dance moves don't have official names, so people invent names like sway or snake hips, which is fine, but why steal a term that already has a totally different meaning in Middle Eastern dance? That's just confusing to new students.

    Ok, so people tend to do figure 8 moves during the taxim part of the music, but they also tend to do pelvic tucks and drops during the drum solo. Imagine teaching pelvic drops and calling them "drum solos."


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    Upwards eights ..g.: or if I want to emphasise the vertical element "upwards vertical eights". I've also heard them called "under eights" (cf "over eights" or mayas)

    I believe some Tribal dancers call them taqsim - which is irritating and confusing as a taqsim is a solo improvisation by a musical instrument.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    Quote Originally Posted by casbahdance View Post
    I really like descriptive names for things,

    Deborah
    Me too, for the most part, but sometimes nicknames creep in. Last week I taught a "step cross boing cross step fish slow-boing" which I told my students was redonk but if it did the trick...


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    I call them vertical eights, and use them so often that my students are used to seeing "V8s" in printed choreographies.


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    Re: what are the upwards figure 8s called??

    Quote Originally Posted by Zamira View Post
    Imagine teaching pelvic drops and calling them "drum solos."
    Heh. Good point.

    Quote Originally Posted by ouroboros View Post
    "step cross boing cross step fish slow-boing"
    Must. See. This.


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