Thread: Clips of Turkish Style dancers

I'm so glad for this selection! Thanks so much for posting these videos! I love them!

Originally Posted by Nouria

I like Hale Sultan. She also looks like a Renaissance madonna...actually I was looking for that drum solo clip in black pants with the silver bedleh...

YouTube - Hale Sultan beautiful Turkish dancer

Also, Hale Sultan is one of the models of Legend costumes ,r:;

Ahhh, thanks for posting. Really enjoyed watching them ..g.:

Great discussion so far.

Originally Posted by norma

Only this silly baklava clip!

YouTube - Ozel Turkbas "Bedevilled Belly Dancer"

I can not get enough of this clip! She is such an amazing dancer! Graceful but energetic. Lovely. I wish there were more clips:(

Did you notice he keeps making grabby hands at her while she is dancing?

I looooooove turkish style
here are also some of my favourites


reyhan and sefarad sami
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT_dQbds4eY"]YouTube- Oryantal Reyhan & Sefarad Sami Romanlar Roman Oyun Havasi[/ame]


and the amazing tulay karaca
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_SscQURoUk"]YouTube- Tulay Karaca on Turkish Televison part 2(TURKISH BELLY DANCE)[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtjoFaRJddE"]YouTube- Tulay Karaca on Turkish Televison part 1(TURKISH BELLY DANCE)[/ame]

didem
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfCk5pOJyNQ"]YouTube- Ibo Show Kibariye Motor Ali Roman Havasi[/ame]

Originally Posted by jengal55

I can not get enough of this clip! She is such an amazing dancer! Graceful but energetic. Lovely. I wish there were more clips:(

Did you notice he keeps making grabby hands at her while she is dancing?

Are you sure this is Ozel? I think this is somebody else,in fact I'm pretty sure it's not her

Let me jump into this interesting discussion, although I am very new to the forum.
I live in Istanbul and having "oriental" dance lessons for almost 2 years ... so I would say I dance Turkish Oriental. I also took many workshops with many "Turkish" teachers, but they frequently use Egyptian or Arabic musics instead of Turkish. In famous show restaulants, you will notice ( and be disappointed) they dance Egyptian style to Shik Shak Shok !!!

I LOVE clasic Turkish oriental in 80's, but it is sooo difficult to find a Turkish Oriental dancer/teacher, unless her/his style is roman style or roma-oriental.

I wonder if turkish dancers themselves don't much care if they dance to a Turkish music or not ... one of my teacher used to use Turkish musics but she mixes jazz and modern flavor in her dance style to make it "her own style". I see this behavior with many dancers here, and they don't very much appreciate beeing addressed as " Turkish Oriental". Very interesting...

Sorry for this long comment( and thanks for reading! ), but I couldn't hold is as "After all, what is Turkish Oriental??" is one of my biggest interest now.



Now, finally, here are my favorite clips!

Nesrin Topkapı
This may not meet the criteria as she dances to the Egiptian song ( if I am not wrong ) but you should see this!! This is what I classy and elegant Turkish Oriental.
(FYI, she is my teacher for 1 year now, and she uses Egyptian musics in her lessons ... so I would say that is her taste)

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Then "Turkish oriental with Turkish music"

Dilek
I saw her clips on YouTube, and I like her dance style ...
She is an award winner and based in San Diego but she is a Turkish. ( according to a description)

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Originally Posted by Kraliche

I LOVE clasic Turkish oriental in 80's, but it is sooo difficult to find a Turkish Oriental dancer/teacher, unless her/his style is roman style or roma-oriental.

Hi Kraliche!
It's great to have someone from Turkey in this discussion.
Are there no teachers to teach Turkish Oriental at all?
Could you describe the style?

Nesrin dances breathtakingly beautiful, but it's difficult to judge a style if the music is Arab, the music programs attitude, flow and so on.

Apart from arm moves and a vague impression I have of Turkish dancers, I would really like to know what is the Turkish style of dancing - aside from Turkish Rom. I'll meet two Turkish dancers before christmas yet and I'll ask them, too.

Do you have clips of yourself doing Turkish Oriental to Turkish music?

Originally Posted by Kraliche

Let me jump into this interesting discussion, although I am very new to the forum.
I live in Istanbul and having "oriental" dance lessons for almost 2 years ... so I would say I dance Turkish Oriental. I also took many workshops with many "Turkish" teachers, but they frequently use Egyptian or Arabic musics instead of Turkish. In famous show restaulants, you will notice ( and be disappointed) they dance Egyptian style to Shik Shak Shok !!!

I LOVE clasic Turkish oriental in 80's, but it is sooo difficult to find a Turkish Oriental dancer/teacher, unless her/his style is roman style or roma-oriental.

I wonder if turkish dancers themselves don't much care if they dance to a Turkish music or not ... one of my teacher used to use Turkish musics but she mixes jazz and modern flavor in her dance style to make it "her own style". I see this behavior with many dancers here, and they don't very much appreciate beeing addressed as " Turkish Oriental". Very interesting...

Sorry for this long comment( and thanks for reading! ), but I couldn't hold is as "After all, what is Turkish Oriental??" is one of my biggest interest now.



Now, finally, here are my favorite clips!

Nesrin Topkapı
This may not meet the criteria as she dances to the Egiptian song ( if I am not wrong ) but you should see this!! This is what I classy and elegant Turkish Oriental.
(FYI, she is my teacher for 1 year now, and she uses Egyptian musics in her lessons ... so I would say that is her taste)

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Then "Turkish oriental with Turkish music"

Dilek
I saw her clips on YouTube, and I like her dance style ...
She is an award winner and based in San Diego but she is a Turkish. ( according to a description)

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/4r46j_aTMAQ&hl=ja_JP&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/4r46j_aTMAQ&hl=ja_JP&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

I was hoping someone from Turkey would join in!

Originally Posted by norma

That was interesting that was similar to the Roman Havasi clips but not as polished. I haven't seen her before. What would you call that style?

I see that Carey has deleted a bunch of her posts, I'm assuming because they were Arabicised Turkish? But I don't know why this one got deleted, so I'm reinstating it:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqiOxO53o7c]YouTube - Reyhan ve Husnu Promo[/ame]

Reyhan Tusuz is just a Romany woman who lives in Istanbul doing her thing. She totally rocks it too. She has started teaching people out of her home in the last few years to help supplement her family's income. She is a must visit in my opinion for any Oriental dance visiting Istanbul.

This cutie should be on here:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj6p_jDrMBE]YouTube - Turkish Dance, Ella Lola (1898)[/ame]

I'm going to check through really quick to make sure the one's I'm about to share haven't already be shared.

Originally Posted by Kraliche

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Now, finally, here are my favorite clips!

Nesrin Topkapı
This may not meet the criteria as she dances to the Egiptian song ( if I am not wrong ) but you should see this!! This is what I classy and elegant Turkish Oriental.
(FYI, she is my teacher for 1 year now, and she uses Egyptian musics in her lessons ... so I would say that is her taste)

YouTube - NESRÄ°N TOPKAPI - (79 YILBAÅžI)


Then "Turkish oriental with Turkish music"

Dilek
I saw her clips on YouTube, and I like her dance style ...
She is an award winner and based in San Diego but she is a Turkish. ( according to a description)

YouTube - Dilek, San Diego Turkish Belly Dancer Las Vegas Belly Dance Intensive Festival show

Bhuz auto embeds a youtube url, so you don't have to use the embed code. I fixed it above & below...lets see if it works.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8s2OT5D4w8"]YouTube- NESRÄ°N TOPKAPI - (79 YILBAÅžI)[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r46j_aTMAQ"]YouTube- Dilek, San Diego Turkish Belly Dancer Las Vegas Belly Dance Intensive Festival show[/ame]

Originally Posted by Nouria

Hi, sorry, it is not necessarily graceless but at times. I've seen Birgul Beray doing some moves and others I perceive as rough and rather not that beautiful for my perception. That might be temper and momentum or personal style or whatever.

You have to know that what I say is an impression of videoclips, I have admitted not having witnessed any great Turkish dancers, so, I'm putting this totally up for discussion,r:;

I am a fan of turkish style, but Birgul is one of the 2 dancers I don"t like at all in Istanbul. Her style is not graceful at all both live and on video.

oldies:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiBjnY1pKBQ]YouTube - Turkish Belly Dancer,Kudret Sandra (Sandrali)[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXYY-i5oRKU]YouTube - Turkish Belly Dancer,Kudret Sandra (Sandrali) & one oriental[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTPEL2eRFII]YouTube - Turkish bellydancer character in old Turkish cinema-Vesikali Yarim (1968)[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ROra-QAATk"]YouTube- Famous Turkish Oriental (belly dancer) Nergis Mogol , 1954[/ame]

Oh dear, why my favorite clip is not properly embeded?!?!
(can' I just copy and page from YouTube???)

Dilek
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r46j_aTMAQ]YouTube - Dilek, San Diego Turkish Belly Dancer Las Vegas Belly Dance Intensive Festival show[/ame]
She dances to a Turkish pop music with her Turkish Sytle (I think )... or do you call it Turkish flavored AmCab???

I know this is a thread to "clip" Turkish Oriental, not to "discuss", but just one more word or two ...

Yes my teachers use Egyptian/Arabic songs, but I think we have different interpretations and moves to them. We have more walking steps, more arm moves, strong accent, rather "on the beat" than "put pause" ...
If Turkish dancers don't mind using non-Turkish music, maybe I should follow them..c::

Sweet! You'll love this one:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq1SuDrab-w]YouTube - turkish romany on old turkish film[/ame]

Oh, shems, thank you very much!Looks like we are working on the same time!

The somewhat frightening dance at the Turkish Bath:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nu8SzAF9u0]YouTube - The Best Turkish Belly Dancer[/ame]

Another couple of Tulay, because you just can't get too much Tulay:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSXUVV05ZxE]YouTube - eski türk dansözü tülay karaca[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFWsjbigjw"]YouTube- Turkish belly dancer tulay karaca[/ame]

Another dancer I can't get enough of Oyantal Reyhan doing Roman:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3jhIwvDqng]YouTube - roman reyhan[/ame]

If you dig Didem's Roman:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nx7VvXJlNM]YouTube - Didem Turkish Bellydancer Roman Havasi[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XpHy7Lxeco]YouTube - oryantal didem roman dansı[/ame]

I would say that the way turkish dancers do drum solos is very different from any Egyptian dancer I have ever seen.
Drum solo composed by Turkish musicians are very different in style and technique to the arabic one. In Egypt i saw one dancer in Luxor do a drum solo and in Cairo only Soraya ( from Brazil) makes it an important part of her show. In Istanbul you always have drum solos. In my opinion it is one of the differences in the styles today.
so I will risk posting clips from Didem and Tanyeli that is in my opinion still show turkish style

here the entrance is more turkish style ( but the drum solo isnt turkish music)
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02eZc0EYGD0]YouTube - DIDEM 2009 BELLYDANCE[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAHDfxBY9UI]YouTube - Didem Turkish Bellydancer[/ame]

and Tanyeli dancing with Ebru Gundes
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ_QZ0Ir-QU]YouTube - Ebru Gündes - Tanyeli - Hisar Konseri (8/11)[/ame]

A couple of Americans who I think rock the Turkish Roman

Elizabeth Strong:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsHrJyPX49Q]YouTube - Elizabeth Strong[/ame]

Jessaiah Zure:
[ame="http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=26841 818"]Jessaiah dancing Turkish Roman with Bazooki Orhan in Istanbul Video by Jessaiah Zure - MySpace Video@@AMEPARAM@@http://mediaservices.myspace.com/services/media/embed.aspx/m=26841818@@AMEPARAM@@mediaservices@@AMEPARAM@@mys pace@@AMEPARAM@@services/media/embed@@AMEPARAM@@aspx/m@@AMEPARAM@@26841818[/ame]

I know this thread isn't about Roman...but I couldn't help going down that road a little. <3

And since the modern Turkish approach to drum solos is so unique, I did want to add my favorite Didem tabla solo, it is very Turkishy:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xM4zk9oWro]YouTube - 7th April 2007 Didem Bellydancer 2/6 - Tabla Solo I[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CUvijGCF5s]YouTube - 7th April 2007 Didem Bellydancer 4/6 - Tabla Solo II[/ame]

Originally Posted by JoLynn

Turkish is more gymnastic, Tulay Karaca does some amazing high kicks and high knee lifts that I would never expect to see an Egyptian dancer do,

Hm, look at 0:58.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUZ-HfIdkLs"]YouTube- Naima Akef in a film نعيمة عاك�[/ame]

It's not necessary part of the regular movement vocabulary of Egyptian dance, but as I understand you, it's also an individual thing for Tulay Karaca and not a general thing with Turkish style.

Sometimes also I think can you get more gymnastic than Randa...

Originally Posted by palmier

I would say that the way turkish dancers do drum solos is very different from any Egyptian dancer I have ever seen.
Drum solo composed by Turkish musicians are very different in style and technique to the arabic one. In Egypt i saw one dancer in Luxor do a drum solo and in Cairo only Soraya ( from Brazil) makes it an important part of her show. In Istanbul you always have drum solos. In my opinion it is one of the differences in the styles today.
so I will risk posting clips from Didem and Tanyeli that is in my opinion still show turkish style

here the entrance is more turkish style ( but the drum solo isnt turkish music)
YouTube - DIDEM 2009 BELLYDANCE

My problem with Didem is I always think I see somebody doing breakdance or hiphop when she does the "broken" or rather accentuated circles, she usually loves "broken" bodywaves. She is graceful and flexible and pretty, but often treats the whole musical piece almost as preliminaries to the drum solo, like walking in as the topmodel, everybody cheering how good she looks again, swooshing her hair to both sides, doing some turns and some snake arms and then: tabla solo. A lot of moves also talented gogo-girls will like for being flashy... I totally miss the ability to express anything lyrical in her. I know she did different things also, but this seems a pattern, still. Of course she has amazing physical ability, and she is a captivating beauty, no doubt, but with a giant as Nesrin Topkapi, elegant, super-feminine, graceful and intuitive as a dancer only can be, I can't somehow understand the status Didem has in Turkey.

Originally Posted by shems

A couple of Americans who I think rock the Turkish Roman

Elizabeth Strong:
YouTube - Elizabeth Strong

Jessaiah Zure:
Jessaiah dancing Turkish Roman with Bazooki Orhan in Istanbul Video by Jessaiah Zure - MySpace Video

I know this thread isn't about Roman...but I couldn't help going down that road a little. <3

I just noticed this thread and my video :)
wanted to mentioned that Jessaiah's Roman style is very nice, but the song that changed in the middle is not Roman, it is a sad song (with upbeat rythms) about a Civil War that took place in Canakkale and this song is about a girl went away from her home to get married, and she missed her home.
I would not dance Roman to this song. I know there is a folkloric style line dancing done often to this song, even using spoons.

but often treats the whole musical piece almost as preliminaries to the drum solo, like walking in as the topmodel, everybody cheering how good she looks again, swooshing her hair to both sides, doing some turns and some snake arms and then: tabla solo

This is exactly why I don't care for her, I do tend to prefer more of the 80's style Turkish Oriental myself

More videos please! This is great!

Originally Posted by shems

I see that Carey has deleted a bunch of her posts, I'm assuming because they were Arabicised Turkish? But I don't know why this one got deleted, so I'm reinstating it:

YouTube - Reyhan ve Husnu Promo

Reyhan Tusuz is just a Romany woman who lives in Istanbul doing her thing. She totally rocks it too. She has started teaching people out of her home in the last few years to help supplement her family's income. She is a must visit in my opinion for any Oriental dance visiting Istanbul.

She might just have to repost everything since this is kind of turning into a discussion about what are the differences.

The post of Reyan Tusuz rocked. It's not often we can see such authentic Turkish dancing.