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    Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    What is Muwashahat music? What characterizes it? How is it different from other Arabic music? What famous "belly dance" songs are actually muwashahat? What are some must-know muwashahat songs? Can you link me some of your favorite examples of muwashahat music?

    Is there a traditional dance or traditional dances that are done to this type of music? What do they look like? Are they belly dance, or like belly dance? Can you show me some examples? Is it okay to belly dance to this type of music?


    I found this link from Farida Fahmy which is very informative: Farida Fahmy's Article on Muwashahat

    However, it's hard for me to really understand what they are talking about without hearing examples of the music, and it's hard to picture the dance without seeing it. I want to really understand what this is, but without knowing some of the basic things about it I don't have enough judgement to discern what is real, what is fake, and what is misleading on youtube and the internet at large.

    So, I turn to all you knowledgeable Bhuzzers for all the help I can get!


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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    As I understand it there are no traditional dances. As per Farida's article it is a reconstructed style. The only person I've done classes with who was likely to know what it was about was Aida Nour. I cannot remember what the music was for her first workshop but the second was to the theme song to an Egyptian soap opera! In both cases there was a mix of line length - 6, 8, 10; with blocks of repeats. She implied it followed the form of muwashahat poetry. The dance was very refined - little or no hips other than accents with lots of turns, arabesques etc.

    Could I spot a suitable piece of music myself? Nope.


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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    I can't write a ton right now (baby's just down for a quick nap), but here are some links to Reda's choreographies. As you read on Farida Fahmy's page, he created the style of dance to fit the music which had been created to fit the poetry of the Andalus. It is beautiful music, and the movements are very fluid and gentle. Mohammed Shahin has an instructional dvd with a Muwashahat choreography. I learned it at one of his workshops and performed it for Mahmoud Reda, himself! I don't know what he thought of my presentation, but at least he didn't get up and leave.

    One well known song is Lamma Bada Yatathana


    Reda's




    Nesma - does mostly Andalus, and Reda likes her presentation a lot.


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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    Also, here's a discussion from a while ago about appropriate costuming in other bhuzzers' opinions.

    costume for mouashahat


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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    I'm not sure anyone has completely illuminated this aspect of classical music, but various facets of it have come up in other threads.

    Anala started this one: Al Andalus
    This one was mine: Al-qudud Aleppo

    Sophia linked this article in my thread http://www.afropop.org/explore/style...usian%20music/. Be sure to follow the links through to the two-part interview with Dwight Reynolds.

    There are some song titles and a few audio links here: Untitled 2

    Maqam World has definitions here: Arabic Musical Forms

    I'm not entirely sure how these pieces fit together. I think where we left it was that al-qudud Aleppo is the last active branch on the tree, whereas the Andalus/muwashat are preserved as a historical discipline?


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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    Here is the link to Mohamed's DVD. In case you wanted to dig into that: Mohamed Shahin Native Egyptian Master Instructor, Performer & Choreographer

    I really like Sama'i Bayyati.
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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    There are a couple of translations on my web site of muwashahat:

    This is a review on my web site of a book that has sheet music for some: Book Review: Arabic Music and Songbook, by Joseph Fakhouri (so you can see song titles)

    There's a section for muwashahat on this "shopping" link on my site: Music Store: Classical Music Artists from Egypt & Lebanon

    The legendary Lebanese singer Feiruz recorded some muwashahat.


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    Ranya Renee has done some Muwashahat choreography and (as is usual) a wonderful source of info about the music and dance. You may want to contact her and see if she's posted any videos lately.


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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    When i was at Camparet in Texas last year, Ranya did a day long workshop using this musical form. I did a little research on it because I fell in love with the music and the very lyrical style of the dance. My take away from a very brief study is that the form (reconstructed) has a lot in common with classical Persian dance due to the influence of artists imported from there during the flowering of Ottoman culture in southern Spain.


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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    Thank you guys for the info, links, and resources. I will be checking into all of them over the next few weeks.
    Keep 'em coming!


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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    reviving this thread for shameless self promotion lol !
    and also to share some beautiful muashahat music and dances with you all.

    Me (Aya)


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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    Here is a basic summary of Muwashahat that I included in the handout I gave students at Zahra Zuhair's dance camp so they'd have some context as to which rhythms are considered classical in origin (as opposed to folk):

    Andalusian Muwashahat (plural of Muwashah) are a musical form that found across North Africa that originated in Al-Andalus (medieval Spain and Portugal) between the 9th and 15th centuries. During this time, Muslim Iberia became a major manufacturing center of instruments, and was responsible for exporting many classical musical instruments all over Europe, North Africa and beyond.

    The Muwashah is often composed using a complex rhythms and consists of a call and response form between a soloist and a chorus. Lyrics are written in classical Arabic, rather than regional Arabic, and often pertain to themes such as unrequited love or religion. This music is played during ceremonies, such as marriages, as well as in public restaurants & cafes, and sometimes during celebrations such as independence day and Eid.


    The song forms are a pattern of changing rhythms, which are numerous but include samaii 10/8 and 6/8 quite often. The vids above are lovely examples of the dance, but are only portions of the songs of this form (the first one is all 7/8 time, I think, the second 6/8 and the last 10/8 throughout).

    Oops, just realized this was an old thread. :P
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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    it's never an old thread when there's something to be learned!
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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    I'm glad this thread was revived. I've had it in the back of my head for a while that I'd like to learn more about muwashahat. I don't think I can learn it locally, so maybe a workshop at some point.

    My boss caught me today air-zilling the samai rhythm and wondered what I was doing (OK, so I was alternating air-zilling with thumping it on the desk); I sent him a link to Lena Chamamyan's "Lamma Bada." He was intrigued.
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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    So glad this thread was revived, we've just been talking about this in class. I'm off to do some reading and watching!
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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    Quote Originally Posted by nasila View Post
    The song forms are a pattern of changing rhythms, which are numerous but include samaii 10/8 and 6/8 quite often. The vids above are lovely examples of the dance, but are only portions of the songs of this form (the first one is all 7/8 time, I think, the second 6/8 and the last 10/8 throughout).
    On Turkey / Egypt there is a song in 10/8 and another in 6/8. I trace their origins back to the time of the Ottoman sultans in the liner notes.
    Amazon.com: Turkey / Egypt: Turkish Dance Favorites by the Henkesh Brothers: The Henkesh Brothers, Yasmin Henkesh, Artemis Mourat: Music
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    Re: Talk to me about Muwashahat!

    I don't know anything about it, but I take it this is muwashahat? Ranya Renée:
    *


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihrbanu View Post
    I don't know anything about it, but I take it this is muwashahat? Ranya Renée:
    Yes


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    Quote Originally Posted by Siham_K View Post
    [video=youtube;HxhQylW6iSI]
    I like this one a lot! They seem to embody the soul of the music and the pictures I have from the era (1534 CE). The next Sands of Time album I release will have a theme of Andalousian music. Who among Bhuzzers is knowledgeable about sama'ee/muwashahat who would like to help with the liner notes?
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