Thread: Rita Hayworth as Salome.

I really enjoyed watching this. I know it's fantasy and not authentic but I like watching this kind of clip , it reminds me of being a child and watching Sinbad the Sailor etc. Sorry if it's been posted before.


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjI8G6gA65w"]YouTube - SALOME DANCE OF THE 7 VEILS[/ame]

I agree, it's fun watching some of the old Hollywood portrayals of "Middle Eastern dance". Some are wonderful (such as Nejla Ates' performance in Son of Sinbad) and others are so bad they're funny (such as the performance to the song Little Egypt in the Elvis movie Roustabout). I've amassed a collection of clips that I've extracted from movies, and I'm always on the lookout for more!

Jeez, did you ever see Greta Garbo's dance in "Mata Hari"? Truly ridiculous, although I really enjoyed the movie otherwise.

I haven't seen "Salome" yet, although I adore Rita Hayworth. She's my favorite of all the classic Hollywood movie queens (one look at that moment in "Gilda" where she tosses her hair and says, "Who, me?" and I instantly wanted to look and act just like that). Thanks for posting this.

pretty good interpretation but isn't it interesting that there's no torso or hip movement?
Also that's a great naked dress at the end.

I love it when she does the split and then kinda pounds the veil on the floor. So funny!

Oh, the lustful, degenerate, power hungry older generation exploiting the beautiful young girl.

Rita Hayworth was a real dancer, and it sure shows. Much classier than the stupid belly dancing in Charlie Wilson's War, though still a total fantasy, of course.

We don't really know how people danced in the year 32 or so of the Common Era.

Loved the use of all the colors of silk chiffon and the nude dress at the end.

Love these corny old movies!!!! Reminds me of Saturday afternoons watching epics and monster movies, lol!

wow it got a little rah rah cheerleader at 2:20. she was striking, and that costume was fab!

i love her! i have a picture of her as salome for my avatar on my blog. that veil is just fantastic!

I haven't seen this movie in eons!!! Oooo, Sinbad and Ali Baba were great too... I've not watched any of these since I started bellydancing but doesn't it make you wonder if it wasn't in fact glamorous actresses like Rita & Greta attempting to mimick bd that first sparked our interest? Looking at it now I think it probably was for me -- I can remember thinking how beautiful they were and pretending to be them...

Too bad I have to get out or I'd watch old movie clips on Youtube all afternoon!
(search for "fifties/sixties cheesecake dance")

Originally Posted by Queenie

Too bad I have to get out or I'd watch old movie clips on Youtube all afternoon!
(search for "fifties/sixties cheesecake dance")

With the huge snow storm barreling its way across the Midwest, many of us on the board may be able to do that come tomorrow!! If there's power, that is . . . .w.: ,r:;

Oh man, I have so much to do and could spend SO much time watching these!!

I've always wanted to end my performance in a scream. ..g.:

Here is the Nejla piece from Sinbad!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucKDPh0uOjI"]YouTube - Nejla Ates (Son of Sinbad , 1955)[/ame]

Oh man, I found one from The Avengers...Diana Rigg! I don't want to hijack, do we need a "kitch clips" thread?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXq4J39W1OI&feature=related]YouTube - Harem Dance[/ame]

Wow, the Nejla Ates one is so cool. Instead of making progress with the image of bellydancers in movies, we've gone backwards! No movie nowadays will show more than a few seconds of a dance, it seems. And it's never a real bellydancer.

I am totally going retro! I love this stuff!!! more more more!!!

Originally Posted by bellydancerinfo

I am totally going retro! I love this stuff!!! more more more!!!

ME TOO!!!

Thanks for posting! These old clips are great to watch & fun too! It's always interesting to see how dance has been portrayed and how many "versions"
of dance people think are belly dance. The variations of Salome alone when referenced from a biblical point of view are "to put it nicely - different".

I'm an avid collector of movies, books, lps, magazines and more. There is so much information in them that is both accurate and "artistic". But then this dance is artistic with incredible cultural roots that are fascinating to learn. The more you find, the more you want to learn!

I love reading Shira's website for the latest items she finds! Someday I'd love to see her collection in person.
hum...Shira, maybe you could post a couple photos of your collection so we could all live vicariously through you? ..g.:

[QUOTE=elljay;118175]Oh man, I found one from The Avengers...Diana Rigg! I don't want to hijack, do we need a "kitch clips" thread?]

i was thinking that very thing

i think i'm gonna search for the clips in star trek (the opening sequence in 'wolf in the fold', i think she may be an actual belly dancer, and the orion slave girl in the pilot (more sex than oriental, but the moves were there ), not to mention at LEAST 3 james bond flicks

Ah, yes Vina (Susan Oliver) was the original Orion Slave Girl. I'm a Trekkie and that's one of my favorites. Love the music too!

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tl45bhzneJM&feature=related]YouTube - Orion Slave Girl[/ame]

Is Salome's dance really supposed to be bellydance? I mean, who decided that it was 'bellydance' and when?

Originally Posted by elljay

Oh man, I found one from The Avengers...Diana Rigg! I don't want to hijack, do we need a "kitch clips" thread?

YouTube - Harem Dance

I wonder if Dame Diana looks back on that with fondness....g.:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_DXktg7nBM]YouTube - Carry On up the Khyber[/ame]

Ok no dancing but you want kitsch and belly dance outfits..here it is.

Salome has been portrayed many ways over the years including Oscar Wilde who had a great deal to do with that image.

To keep it short, Shira has some info great info here: Dance of the Seven Veils

Sisters of Salome is a book I read last summer while on travel and found it very interesting too.
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Sisters-Salome-Toni-Bentley/dp/0803262418/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1201977238&sr=8-1]Amazon.com: Sisters of Salome: Books: Toni Bentley[/ame]

Originally Posted by ruta21030

i think i'm gonna search for the clips in star trek (the opening sequence in 'wolf in the fold', i think she may be an actual belly dancer

Yes, the dancer in Wolf in the Fold was Tanya Lemani. There's a thread about her autobiography in the "Product News and Reviews" section of bhuz titled something like, "Attention all Trekkies". Her autobiography was released this past fall, and titled Have Belly Will Travel. I'm the process of reading it now - I'm about 1/3 of the way through it so far.

Originally Posted by *Shira*

Yes, the dancer in Wolf in the Fold was Tanya Lemani. There's a thread about her autobiography in the "Product News and Reviews" section of bhuz titled something like, "Attention all Trekkies". Her autobiography was released this past fall, and titled Have Belly Will Travel. I'm the process of reading it now - I'm about 1/3 of the way through it so far.

i found the vid that shadiyah put in, as well as yvonne craig as another 'orion' in the insane asylum episode, but there WAS one for 'kara's dance' that has since been removed.........bummer

i'll keep lookin', maybe some of those bond scenes, and i'm sure there are others....anyone remember suhaila in max headroom? fab costume...........oh, and a very young aunt rocky in 'the projectionist'....yep, i smell spinoff........

This is why I love the vintage stuff.... Thanks so much for posting!!

I love your site too, I've listened to the programmes for years, but I was one of the listeners who preferred the format before the podcasts. For me it was better when I could identify which tune I was listening to.

However,it's still a wonderful resource, and I do thank you for providing it and for all the hard work you've put into it over the years.

Originally Posted by RadioBastet

This is why I love the vintage stuff.... Thanks so much for posting!!

Originally Posted by jahbie

I love your site too, I've listened to the programmes for years, but I was one of the listeners who preferred the format before the podcasts. For me it was better when I could identify which tune I was listening to.

However,it's still a wonderful resource, and I do thank you for providing it and for all the hard work you've put into it over the years.

Jahbie, agreed. Not only could I identify what I was listening to, but I could even deconstruct the playlist and take what I wanted out, perhaps to make a playlist with only the instructional tracks. That would be handy.

Thank you for all your hard work, though, Marisa. You're program is an invaluable resource for us vintage belly dance fans.

spiced

Originally Posted by Shadiyah_dances

Ah, yes Vina (Susan Oliver) was the original Orion Slave Girl. I'm a Trekkie and that's one of my favorites. Love the music too!

YouTube - Orion Slave Girl

Here's a Trek slave dancing girl in blue. No hip movement, however, I could borrow some of her arm and hand movements for Oriental Dance:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLQM8NKrHuw&feature=related]YouTube - TOS - Whom Gods Destroy Dance Scene[/ame]

spiced