Thread: rates and updates

Hi all!
I've finally gotten things in order to do updates on my site (newly redesigned) and it's high time I get the rates updated.
PLEASE post or message me with rates in your area.
The main info includes the following:
Restaurant rates (and "up to" length of show)
Party rates

Other info can be included such as:
regular class rates:
troupe rates: (I'd really like to expand on this!)
bachelorette or hen party rates (ie: when teaching at a party)

Remember I do not know your region or the major cities in your area, so please post with all pertinent info.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

NH VT ME:
Belly Grams $125-$150 plus travel 10-20 minutes
Classes: $10-$15 per hour
Full Performance (20 min+ costume change, etc.) $150-$350
Troupe Rates $75-$125 per dancer (Vary a lot)
Bach parties/ladies nights: $125-$250 per hour

For me, in CT/NYC:

Restaurant rates - I do $100 for 20 min. show. It's been that for a long time but I'm always so appreciative to the places that support the dance. Some places pay a bit less but there is a large band to split money with at Grisly, Mezzo, etc.

Party rates $225-300 for 20 to 30 mins

regular class rates $20 drop in, $15 if paying for 10 or more

troupe rates: My duet rate with my partner is 450 for 30 min show with choreography

bachelorette or hen party rates (ie: when teaching at a party) 250-300 which includes mini performance, bindis, and CD.

Thanks Samira for keeping your site current and HIGHLY informative! I will check our your new look!

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada:

Teaching minimum (class, private or semi-private) $25/hr
Performance minimum $110 for 15-20 minute set
Transportation out of city 0.30-0.35/km round trip

Hen party/bachelorette party rates vary more, $125-225/hr. More is charged if a full performance is desired, less for a partial performance. Some charge more for full costume vs. less glamorous attire.

These rates were last updated in 2005.

Dallas/Fort Worth:

Bellygram (10-15 minutes) $200-$225
Full show (20-30 minutes) $250-$300, extra show with costume change + $100
Hen parties (one-hour lesson at client's location) - with short performance $300, (without performance $250) - these MAY include keepsakes, but not in all cases.
Classes - $15-$20/hour
Private lessons - $80/hour, (semi-private $50 per person)
Restaurant shows - currently, $60-$75 for a 20-30 minute show, or $100 for two 15-20 minute shows (this is an old rate, but there are a couple of places that currently pay this)

NEW venues should start at $75-$100 for one show, $120-$150 for two. This is my goal in 2010.

ETA: The rates on my website are slightly higher for the hen parties, but my experience shows that I've had better luck booking at the slightly lower rate. I will leave the higher rates up on my website, though, and continue to aim for that, as I typically try to lead the way in raising rates in my area.

Group shows: minimal $200 per dancer, per hour onsite if applicable.

I'm often asked why restaurant rates are different than private party rates. The reason is an obvious one: regular income vs. sporadic income. The more I work for you, the more discount off my regular $250-$350 rate you receive.

Another area that I haven't seen covered in discussions like these is the rate for restaurants that have dancers occasionally but not every week.

The rate breakdown I have devised for restaurants is as follows:

Less than once a month booking: $175 for a 20-minute show
Once a month booking: $150 for a 20-minute show
Twice a month booking: $125 for a 20-minute show
Weekly or more: $100 for a 20-minute show

GREAT! Thank you so much ladies, keep 'em coming!
When I add these in I will also reformat the data to be alphabetized by state. :) It hope it will make it much easier to find what you are looking for.

Triangle Area - Raleigh, Durham, and Chapel Hill, NC
BellyGram - (2 songs, apprx 10 min show) - $125-$150
Full set (up to 20 min) - $150 and up (usually $175-$200)
Weddings - (approx 30 minutes) - $200 and up
Restaurants (two sets) - $75-$100
Ladies workshops - Starts at $125, usually $175-200 with performance set
Classes and privates vary too much to list.
Local dancers correct me if I am wrong!

Aachen, Germany, my personal rates (which are comparable to neighbouring cities)

Party rate show 18-20 min: 185-215 Euro plus traveling fee
Party rate bellygram 10-12 min: 155-175 Euro plus traveling fee
Corporate show 25-35 min or more than one set: 295-495 Euro, depending on nr of costume changes or length of set(s), plus travel fee

Weekly class rates in my area are around 8-10 Euro per hour, I charge 9 Euro per hour (a bit less if students combine hours). The city (VHS) also offers belly dance classes at a cheaper rate (about 35-40 Euro for ten classes)

Private classes: 30-40 Euro per hour plus studio rent plus travel fee

Samira, the new layout looks very good but -- you seem to have moved (renamed) your 'Fair Pay, Typical Rates etc' page, so that every page in the world that links to your rates page is now broken... including ours... don't know when the change happened, I suppose, I haven't checked that link in a year..I think.. anyway, if move was recent, maybe you could move it back to http://www.samirashuruk.com/standard...uidelines.html ?
Seriously, if I had a page that was that popular, I would NOT be moving it for anything.

Shira's moving pages around too, I found three broken costuming links on our website yesterday, but she's so conspicuous she can afford the broken links.

The host change over created a bunch of address changes. I'm working on renaming the files to change some of them back. Thanks for bringing it up.

Texas
Killeen/Fort Hood (rates include the nearby Harker Heights & Copperas Cove areas)

These are my rates for:

Classes: $40/month or $15 drop-in; 8wk sessions are $70; private lessons are $50/hr
Bellygram (10-15mins) $150
Ladies Night/Hen Party (1hr lesson with mini performance) $175-200
Weddings start at $250
Restaurants: $100 for two 15-20min sets
Nightclubs: One off events start at $175 for up to 20mins, and go up from there. Regular scheduling/repeat bookings start at $125 for two sets up to 20min ea.

The hookah lounge here hires bellydancers to perform one 15min set monthly - pay is $40. I'm only booking 2 set shows now & have quoted them $80 for two sets. However, NEW venues would start at the restaurant rate.

These are OUR rates in Louisville KY, I don't pretend to speak for anyone else.
30-minute drill classes (drop-in) $5.
One-hour technique classes, by the month only, no drop-in:
Beginner $10 per class, Adv Beg $12, Intermediate $15
Private lessons: $25/30 minutes, $40/hr for current students, $50/hr all others.
Semi-private lessons: $50/hr for current students, $60/hr all others.

$125 for a 2-hr party at our studio. This includes a 'fun' dance class or performance.

The follow are 'start-at' prices:
$200 for a 30-minute performance at a party within metro-L'ville location.
$300 for a 30-minute performance at a wedding or gala.
Milage, custom music, costume changes and holiday rates [and hauling sound systems, training your talent agency dancers to dance, transporting your relatives to the venue etc ] quoted as required.

Orlando, Florida
These are my rates for:

Private lesson $40/hour
Private party (local):$250 includes a 20 minute show
Private party outside Orlando: starts at $300+
Private party with Fire (local): 350 just palm torches not local (450+)
Restaurant once a month all year: $175
Restaurant once a week $150
Restaurant hiring me exclusively get a better rate.

Thanks for posting those rates, Jordon. I may or may not move to FL (Merritt Island) sometime this year. It's never too soon to get a ballpark figure for what everybody's charging!

Originally Posted by SamiraShuruk

The host change over created a bunch of address changes. I'm working on renaming the files to change some of them back. Thanks for bringing it up.

You can also just do a permanent 401 redirect.

Southeast Michigan/Detroit Metro

Nightclub show $100
Wedding dinner show (30 mins w CD) $250
Zeffa $200
Wedding show with zeffa $300-350
Private party $250

Minneapolis/St. Paul

Guild information is not very helpful for this at this time. Based on what I've learned talking to dancers in the area....

Restaurant:
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15 to 30 minutes (depending on location)
Places that have been doing it for a while -- $60 for 1 show, $75 for 2, $90 for 3 (that's total, not per show--and that's the Guild'ds current posted rate), tipping allowed
...but when a new one starts up, conscientious dancers have been trying to slowly nudge that up, so there have been a couple at $75 for one show, $100 for 2.

Private Party
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General going rates are $150-$225+ with a lot of the basic (anything up to 30 minutes--whether belly gram, hen party with short performance and lesson, etc.) often falling in the $150-$175 range, and going up from there.

Weddings: Minimum $200, if add special requests, shamadan/zeffa, or major PIA factor, most people charge more.

Classes: $12-16 for 1.5 hour class, $15-18 for 2 hour classes for drop-ins; some programs have session pricing only or price breaks for full session or multiple classes. Workshops/mini-workshops vary.

Troupe rates: Really complex...varies a LOT...in part because of the range of troupes (some pro, some decidedly not) and in part because of the range of the events.

Overall with respect to rates: Obviously, for travel outside a certain area, extra time, major PIA, etc., dancers generally charge more.

Ahhhh, you ladies are the best!!!
All updates through facebook, email and here have been updated AND the US list now is alphabetized by state.
Still working on the URL fix... but the updates took quite some time.

Happy to add more info! Any more?? ..g.:

Tokyo Area:
Restaurants: 1 set (usually 20 minutes...rarely 25....due to size) 10,000 yen.

Netherlands, Utrecht Area:

Restaurant, 2 sets = 85-95 euro
Private booking one set 15-20 minutes 170 euro + travel expenses
Private booking two sets = 250 + travel expenses

average prices for Fairbanks Alaska (North Pole, Ester, surrounding area)
Restaurant rates $75-$100 per 20 minute set per dancer ($75 for regular/multiple bookings)
Party rates $100-$150 either per hour (including prep time- this framework is used for folks who want mini lesson or extra photo time with customers, etc.) or per 20 minute set- $15-$25 waiting fee is usually charged per 1/4 hour as well (or at least threatened!)
regular class rates: $12-$15 per hour

Samira, I see you have already improved your page! It's much easier to find info now, by state alphabetically & also in different font color!

Killeen, TX and local areas
Classes: $70 for an 8 week session, $60 with advanced registration, $10 drop-ins. I may also be including an additional class for $40-50 per month, I'm still working out the details on that.
Mini-show/bellygram (10 minutes or less): $125+
Basic show (15-20 minute set): $175+
Themed Children's' Parties: $225+
Weddings and Showers: $250+
Adding a mini-lesson to a show: $25 per 15 minute block (i.e. $100 for an hour)
Fire Fusion: Add $50 to any show, suitable venues only
Snake Dance: Add $50, limited availability (currently unavailable due to theft)
Restaurants and Clubs: $75+ for a 15 minute set, additional sets in the same evening for $50+ each.
I charge an additional fee for distance outside the local area (Killeen, Copperas Cove, Harker Heights, and Fort Hood) $0.50 per mile beyond city limits

Troupe performance rates:
We chose to simply charge an additional $100-150 per dancer over my rates as a soloist for any performance opportunity, generally 20-25 minute sets for larger groups (4 and above) with a soloist or two.
Fire Fusion is an additional $50 per dancer for troupe settings.

Our troupe is currently not performing, but I am working on building a new local performance troupe. These are likely the rates we will use.

Just a correction, really trying not to sound like I'm trying to cause a conflict here, the local hookah bar used to book bellydance shows 2-3 times each month, minimum. They cut back due to costs, but they are looking to book dancers more often than once a month in the new year. Currently I am also negotiating a new contract with them, for the new year. I can update details on that once I've finalized my new contract.