Thread: Rates when inviting dancers (international)

So I have a question, I know about the usual german rates when booking a dancer for workshops or shows from germany but never invited someone international till now.

I guess it may be a bit different when inviting someone from outside germany (but still Europe, so this is a question that's more directed to the european bhuzzers), so can anyone give me a hint how the rates are for workshops, shows etc.?
Do you take/pay a fee per hour, split the cash receipts at a special percentage or what?

I usually negotiate an hourly rate, along with a set fee for the show, with the stipulation that I would take 60% of the *profits* not the cash receipts (the organiser has bills to pay and should also make money from the event!) if it's just me. If it is part of a larger event - like a festival then I would negotiate an hourly rate plus a fee for any performing.

since i'm thinking about starting to organise: my approach has been to just ASK people what they charge/what their conditions are, and if necessary then make a counter offer or not. figure out what you can afford, and then go from there?

my info so far is that its either
- hourly fee plus expenses
- % of cash receipt (and organiser pays costs from their %)
- % of profit plus costs

Hi there :)
I've organized more than 20 workshops in Greece with teachers from Europe and Arab countries so I guess I'm expert on this lol

Every case is different but in general:
You got to set a minimum and max of people in class, from 15 to 25 is the best (at least for me that hate to have students un-satisfied).
Set the workshops, 2 X 3 hour in a weekend or 4 X 2 hours in a weekend.
From the incume 60 to 70% takes the teacher (the clear profit) and rest the organizor.
Now about the case of performing, usually the teachers are my friends so they do it (before the workshops) as part of the organizing for free. In one case I payed it was 200 euro for 2 sets of 20 min at a huge club, and it worthed cause we got 10 more people for the workshop from it.

Maria Aya, hope I helped

Thank you so much!

There was a teacher who I would love to invite here but she quoted me an hourly wage plus would want to do a show with a fee for every dance that seemed pretty high to me as I would be not able covering the expenses for her fee, traveling costs, hotel, room rent,... without having a minimum of 20(!) students.

The workshops I organized before with german teachers were always splitting 70/30 so I was wondering if this is normal paying an hourly fee when having someone from another country.

When I go abroad, I have an hourly rate for up to 15 students and a higher rate if there should be more than 15 people.
If I can drive to the place in a reasonable time (up to about 4 hours) this rate also includes my travel expenses.
If it's further away and I have to fly, I will ask the organizer to pay for it.
The organizer is also responsible to find a place for me to sleep. I personally don't care if that's a hotel or just a sofa.

My basic rule is also that I want to teach more hours than it takes me to to go there. So if I have to drive 6 hours (3 hours each way) I want to teach at least 7 hours to make it worth while for me.
But I typically teach 4 - 6 hours on each day (Saturday + Sunday).

I don't perform often when I teach somewhere, so I have no fixed rate for that. It depends on the event.

MEISSOUN

Rate vary wildly for international teachers. I normally take all the costs (including teachers fee), put them in my spreadsheet, then work out what I have to charge each student (workshop price) in order to put the event on. If the workshop price is something the local market will not stand, than I don't have the teacher. I'm not big on negotiating, I prefer to try to be fair to myself and fair to the teacher - my spreadsheets help me do this.

I am currently trying out more expensive teachers, but if the local market will not stand the price, this will inform my decision making process in the future. There is always an element of risk - but I feel that if I learn from my mistakes, then it justifies some risk.