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Originally Posted by aziyade
I know a lot of Lebanese and Palestinian debke rhythms are 6/4, or have a 6-beat rhythm. But there are a lot of 4/4 debkes (think Mohammed el Bakkar) and I have a reeeeeallly hard time hearing the difference between this rhythm and Saiidi.
What the heck is the actual notation for debke rhythms? Both the 4/4 and the 6/4. I've had two drummers try to explain this to me and I just don't get it, so I'm either stupid or beat-deaf to these.
Help?
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A topic close to my heart because I know dancers get this confused. In fact Issam Houshan told me that in a BDSS audition if a dancer can't tell the difference between a 4/4 Nawari rhythm to a Saidi rhythm, their names get crossed off the list.
I think part of the reason there is confusion is that the Saidi gets used as a one bar solo phrase within Nawari when it is being played for Dabke.
You can hear the Nawari rhythm here. Listen to when it gets to the solo at 42sec, Saidi is used briefly
YouTube - Fares Karam Sydney Australia Live
This is the basic notation for Saidi and Nawari
Saidi
1-+-2-+-3-+-4-+-|
T-D-__D-D-__T-__| (Ghawzi variation)
Nawari
1-+-2-+-3-+-4-+-|
T-D-__T-D-__T-__|