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Old 03-20-2009, 08:32 AM   #15
SamiraShuruk
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Re: Debke vrs Saiidi - rhythm ?

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Originally Posted by HubicRuzz View Post
This is the basic notation for Saidi and Nawari


Saidi
1-+-2-+-3-+-4-+-|
T-D-__D-D-__T-__| (Ghawzi variation)

Nawari
1-+-2-+-3-+-4-+-|
T-D-__T-D-__T-__|
AH!!! EXCELLENT notation! Very clear, thank you!!!
Examples: Saidi
Saidi

debke
debke (with stage debke)

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Originally Posted by steffib View Post
I had my own coin-drop moment here -
"Tekedumtak dum dum tak
bend cross, step, lift, lift"
THAT's finally a good reason why the doum and tek are switched at the start of the measure - the bend and then step! Music matches dance ;-) This makes me very happy.
It only matches the dance during PART of the dance. In social debke there are different steps that match up with the vocal and with the instrumental parts. The more complex step patterns go with the instrumental part of the music; when a band is playing these parts are always stretched out longer. Some of the step patterns are in 4/4, others in 6/8...yet still often done to 4/4 rhythms.
The vocal vs instrumental part is of course just a "guideline" Here is what I would call typical social / public / "bublic" debka from Palestine. These guys are really good and fun - although I often see more variations on these steps such as deep lunges, jumping with two feet, one foot held up longer during hops etc. I'd guess this debka is from the same region as one of the ones I usually do with my friends.

Here's a practiced for stage version of another Palestinian debka that I haven't seen as often- so likely just from a different region
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