Samara from Lebanon
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06-16-2007, 02:10 AM
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Samara from Lebanon
it was recently posted on russian forums that Samara is in jail at the moment 
for trying to escape from the country with her son
i can't believe it - how can it be
Nour confirmed this info saying she heard the same from Amani.
Did anyone hear smth on the subject? i'm still hoping it's wrong info :( |
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06-16-2007, 10:02 AM
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She's in Lebanon and trying to escape? Is it b/c of the fighting or is she in another country?
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06-16-2007, 10:39 AM
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she was trying to escape with her son (her husband was against it) but got caught and now she's said to be in prison in Lebanon.
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06-16-2007, 11:42 AM
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Samara is Iraqi, though I can't imagine she'd want to escape to Iraq right now. Unfortunately, if she was trying to flee with her son and her husband was against it, she's essentially fighting a lost battle. I'll wager he now has custody while she sits in jail.
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06-16-2007, 01:12 PM
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custody is what? (don;t know this word)
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06-16-2007, 01:36 PM
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Oh, ok, custody basically means guardianship. If a parent has legal "custody" of a child, it means that the court has given that parent guardianship of that child and usually the other parent canīt take the child, or is only allowed limited time with him.
Edited to Add: In Lebanon, a husband can prevent his wife and children from leaving the country no matter what their nationality is. Child custody matters are usually decided by a religious court, so if the husband and wife have different religions, the children are usually awarded to the father depending on their age. Unfortunately itīs usually the man who wins these custody cases.
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custody is what? (don;t know this word)
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06-17-2007, 12:40 AM
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oh no, thats just aweful news....
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06-18-2007, 10:28 AM
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Last edited by nuringa : 06-19-2007 at 01:11 AM.
Reason: changed the links to better quality files
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06-18-2007, 11:40 AM
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That's really, really sad. And also, not surprising.
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06-18-2007, 02:40 PM
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Samara is Iraqi, though I can't imagine she'd want to escape to Iraq right now. Unfortunately, if she was trying to flee with her son and her husband was against it, she's essentially fighting a lost battle. I'll wager he now has custody while she sits in jail.
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I'd heard she was Iranian.
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06-18-2007, 02:55 PM
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Thanks Jessedan for the explanation of the custody proceedure in Lebanon. I have cousins who are part Egyptian/part Lebanese but never really conversed with them about this. That's interesting.
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Oh, ok, custody basically means guardianship. If a parent has legal "custody" of a child, it means that the court has given that parent guardianship of that child and usually the other parent canīt take the child, or is only allowed limited time with him.
Edited to Add: In Lebanon, a husband can prevent his wife and children from leaving the country no matter what their nationality is. Child custody matters are usually decided by a religious court, so if the husband and wife have different religions, the children are usually awarded to the father depending on their age. Unfortunately itīs usually the man who wins these custody cases.
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06-18-2007, 02:57 PM
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I can't believe that. That's awful. I feel bad for her. So I guess she was just trying to illegally flee the country.
Do you happen to know to what country she and her son were trying to go to?
I'm surprised that there is some debate about Samara's nationality. I always thought she was Lebanese. But some bhuzers are suggesting that she is Iraqi or Persian. Interesting...
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Originally Posted by nuringa
it was recently posted on russian forums that Samara is in jail at the moment
for trying to escape from the country with her son
i can't believe it - how can it be
Nour confirmed this info saying she heard the same from Amani.
Did anyone hear smth on the subject? i'm still hoping it's wrong info :( |
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06-18-2007, 02:59 PM
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Also, I haven't heard much of/from her in the past several years. Can anyone confirm if she retired from dancing?
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06-18-2007, 03:30 PM
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Thanks for sharing the video clips. I had never seen them before. Do you know how old they are? I would assume they are old as I am under the impression that she retired from dancing.
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06-18-2007, 03:30 PM
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Hi Tamrahenna,
Never heard that before. I just double checked with Suha Azar though, (just in case) and she says that that Samara is Iraqi, not Iranian.
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I'd heard she was Iranian.
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Last edited by jessedan : 06-18-2007 at 04:29 PM.
Reason: for clarity
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06-18-2007, 10:57 PM
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I can't believe that. That's awful. I feel bad for her. So I guess she was just trying to illegally flee the country.
Do you happen to know to what country she and her son were trying to go to?
I'm surprised that there is some debate about Samara's nationality. I always thought she was Lebanese. But some bhuzers are suggesting that she is Iraqi or Persian. Interesting...
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i don't know the exact story - it's only rumours. But the problem is definately with Samara's husband. She seemed to hide from him with her son for some time and then got caught and sent to jail for that, for trying to keep the baby with herself.
i feel for her so much and still hope that it's wrong rumors though they seem to come from Amani. |
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06-18-2007, 11:01 PM
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Thanks for sharing the video clips. I had never seen them before. Do you know how old they are? I would assume they are old as I am under the impression that she retired from dancing.
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i have an old old VHS with those clips - bought it from indian sellers - it has also Howaida Hashim on it and some kind of lebanon competition with 1994 written on a curtain of the stage.
i enjoy this footage of Samara greatly. |
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06-19-2007, 01:11 AM
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06-19-2007, 01:40 PM
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Yes, I have many videos of Samara, but they are all old. It leads me to believe that she no longer is dancing.
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Originally Posted by nuringa
i don't know the exact story - it's only rumours. But the problem is definately with Samara's husband. She seemed to hide from him with her son for some time and then got caught and sent to jail for that, for trying to keep the baby with herself.
i feel for her so much and still hope that it's wrong rumors though they seem to come from Amani.
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06-19-2007, 01:42 PM
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Yes, its really sad. You mentioned that the problem is with her husband. Was Samara trying to escape from her husband? Maybe that is why she took her son with her. Is she and her husband still married? I wonder if they are divorced and he called the police when she tried to escape with their son???
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Originally Posted by nuringa
i don't know the exact story - it's only rumours. But the problem is definately with Samara's husband. She seemed to hide from him with her son for some time and then got caught and sent to jail for that, for trying to keep the baby with herself.
i feel for her so much and still hope that it's wrong rumors though they seem to come from Amani.
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06-19-2007, 01:51 PM
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i don't know the details of course
but it was said that she was trying to escape from her former husband with her son.
And I remember also someone told me that she was not performing for the past 3-4 years because she was in fact hiding from her ex-husband.
Maybe what happened here is that she was discovered by him :(
a cruel world it is :( - as a mama with a small baby my heart is breaking only trying to imagine the situation like that.
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06-20-2007, 01:47 PM
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Yes, that is sad indeed. Sounds like she wanted full custody of her child and felt like the best way to have that would be to flee the country? Because if she is divorced from her husband, then she really doesn't need to escape from him, unless she is trying to gain full custody and leave the country. Anyway, perhaps it has something do to with the child laws in Lebanon. Jessedan, if you are reading this thread, perhaps you can explain some of that?
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i don't know the details of course
but it was said that she was trying to escape from her former husband with her son.
And I remember also someone told me that she was not performing for the past 3-4 years because she was in fact hiding from her ex-husband.
Maybe what happened here is that she was discovered by him :(
a cruel world it is :( - as a mama with a small baby my heart is breaking only trying to imagine the situation like that.
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06-20-2007, 02:01 PM
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from what i've heard - in muslim countries if you get divorced the baby is staying with your husband and his family. And if for example a husband dies than the baby is taken by his relatives and doesn't stay with the widow.
i remember Nour saying in one of the interviews that the main reason why she had to take islam is because of future children - so that they won't be given to her husband's family in case smth happens to him
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