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Old 10-14-2007, 12:27 PM   #1
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~Costuming Question~

I thought I found this photo on Bhuz before, Not really sure where i found it.

My question is,
These are the dishdash that men normally wear in the middle east.
Wondering, are their different ones for women?
I have seen Fifi Abdo wearing these in a few of her clips on you tube.

When I came back from Dubai I bought my husband one. (HE never wears) I thought about using it. Just wondering if I could use it for a saidi performance?
Is that a veil around her hip? Can you use coin belts?
What do you use to cover the hair? I have only seen others in photos or at a far away distance. It looks like a hip belt?
All help is greatly appreciated!!
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Old 10-14-2007, 02:01 PM   #2
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Fifi Abdo wears a man's galabeya (Egyptian for dishdash) in her act where she smokes the water pipe. She wears a man's hat, sort of a "pillbox" version of a fez. She wraps a man's neck scarf, very long and narrow, around her hips. This is what you are seeing in the photo. The women's version of the galabeya is pretty much the same pattern, but is often decorated with embroidery or a printed design around the neck, on the sleeve and bottom edges and often all over the front.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:55 PM   #3
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Thank you for the information....
What is fifi wearing on her head in this one? This one is with out the water pipe. She is doing a cane dance. That's wear I got the idea.
You have to forward the clip to the part where she's dancing.
If you miss Fifi, go this way
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:48 PM   #4
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These are the dishdash that men normally wear in the middle east.
Wondering, are their different ones for women?
I have seen Fifi Abdo wearing these in a few of her clips on you tube.

When I came back from Dubai I bought my husband one. (HE never wears) I thought about using it. Just wondering if I could use it for a saidi performance?
Is that a veil around her hip? Can you use coin belts?
What do you use to cover the hair? I have only seen others in photos or at a far away distance. It looks like a hip belt?
Fifi wears a man's silk galabeya. The city man's galabeya is like a long shirt, pretty straight and with a (Chinese) collar and buttons or domes (unlike the rural galabeyas which are open at the neck and much more flared - easier to tuck up when you need to work in the fields)

The woman's one is a little different - doesn't have the domes/buttons. Fifi plays the part of the mi‘allima in her act - she deliberately masculinizes her behaviour - men's clothing, smoking, suggestive language, agression etc.

You don't have to go the whole hog to wear such a garment - and the silk moves beautifully! For a modern sa`iidi piece - why not? Aida Nour performs sa`iidi and beledi in just such a garment (although hers also has crystals sewn around the collar!)

ME woman (even non-professionals) will wrap fabric around their hips before they dance. (A friend recalls a village where a woman wanted to show her a dance move, with nothing suitable to use she wrapped my friend's jacket around her hips)

I wouldn't use a coin belt with a silk galabeya - but I have been known to use a beaded hip scarf. Depends on the venue and style - a length of fabric is often best.

On the head Aida wears a beaded version of the mandil - like a small beaded hip scarf. I think Fifi sometimes does the same. I also wear a "beledi band" - actually in the photo (left) I've used just a rolled silk scarf.
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ME woman (even non-professionals) will wrap fabric around their hips before they dance. (A friend recalls a village where a woman wanted to show her a dance move, with nothing suitable to use she wrapped my friend's jacket around her hips)
*nods* I was at an Algerian woman's house once and she decided we would do some dancing, so she just rolled her housecoat belt (like a dressing gown cord) down to hip level.

The galabeya looks great for folky, beledi dancing. If you are clever you might be able to subtly tailor your husband's one to make it flatter your own figure more, depending on your build. My former teacher bought a beautiful women's one (embroidered in front, very sophisticated) which had the slightest shaping so that it was still very modest and body-hiding, *but* curved a little closer to the body round the upper chest and waist, and very gently flared towards the hem. Still a tunic, just a very subtly shaped one which flattered the female frame without revealing.
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Angelique:

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Hi Azeeza,
I tried to Pm you back. It says your box is full.
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Thanks for everyone's input!!
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I tried to Pm you back. It says your box is full.
I just deleted some mail. Sorry about that !

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