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    George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    I've lost my mind-and I didn't miss it until now. We've had this discussion before, but it's been a year or so. George Abdo did a version of R,R. It may have been at the end of one of his 'routines', which would explain why I can't find it by index. Does anyone have a clue which album is was on?

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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Not on "Belly Dancing with Geo.Abdo, "The Joy..., "The Art..., "Geo. Abdo and His 'Flames...., nor on "Belly Dance Music". I haven't played these in a while but Rompi Rompi isn't noted on any of them.


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    It is Sulukule, not Rompi. On the orange CD.


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Rompi˛ is not on any of the Abdo albums I have (and I think I have them all...).


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    It's on Belly Dancing With George Abdo and part of a medley of songs
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    11 - Belly Dance Fantasy_ Zanuba _ Min Zaman _ Chifte-Telli _ Drum Solo _ Sulu Kulé (Karisilama) - (medley)


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Nope-I have that on CD and it's definately a generic 9/8. I remember a discussion that was specific to Rompi. I don't think it was seperate; I think it was the end of a 'routine'. Favor, please: will someone please go listen to the end of the 'Mustapha' routine on Art and tell me what it ends with? It's the one vinyl I haven't replaced.


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Actually, Sulukule is not a generic 9, it is a pretty well-known tune, found e.g. on Dalia Carella's Shuvani CD and on Djinn's Silent D CD. And, Raks Mustapha ends with a reprise of Mustapha.
    Last edited by steffib; 02-07-2010 at 09:20 PM.


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Sulukule is also a style of 9/8 from the part of Istanbul of the same name. I've heard a number of songs that were entitled 'sulukule' sort of like songs named 'ciftitelli'. I thought that was the case here but I'll go back and listen. (I've also got Shuvani but didn't recall that they were the same)

    I'm considering writing a choreo for a group of students that incorporate a number of well-known songs in a single shortish routine. Abdos got the classic routines, of course, and I wanted to encompass Rompi as the 9/8. Guess it's not going to happen! Now to choose between the ones left.

    Amusingly, I found the original thread that i thought I read. It was one year ago, and it was a remark by Steffib that she was waiting for the 'ultimate Rompi, sung by Abdo.'. I misremembered as it existing.

    Thanks for all your help.


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Because I'm restless I searched further! Steffib-you have been a resource again. Different thread, same type of discussion. Actually people looking for different versions of Sulukule and a recommendation for an Abdo version of Rompi came up. I copy your answer from there: OK, found the George Abdo on my own: It's the last segment of Belly Dance Fantasy from Belly Dancing with George Abdo!
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    Has it ever occurred to anyone else that we return to the same discussions a lot? That was not a complaint-off to the iPod. And, again, thanks everyone. Oh, and I guess I figured out the search function functionality.


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Abdo's recording of "Sulukule" is a bit different from the one on Shuvani, he does not emphasize the breaks as much - your ears are not deceiving you. But, it is the same tune. And, just to add confusion ;-) I have a recording titled "Sulukule Chiftetelli" - that is actually "Mastika".


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Quote Originally Posted by steffib View Post
    Abdo's recording of "Sulukule" is a bit different from the one on Shuvani, he does not emphasize the breaks as much - your ears are not deceiving you. But, it is the same tune. And, just to add confusion ;-) I have a recording titled "Sulukule Chiftetelli" - that is actually "Mastika".

    OK, where's the smiley for "brain exploding"?? ..l;,
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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    It CAN make you crazy, can't it? BTW, the end of 'Fantasy' is still NOT Rompi so I'm back where I started from. Back to the vintage drawing board!


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Not sure whether that is any help, but there is in one of the Radio Bastet podcasts a very sweet routine that ends with Rompi, with other well-known tunes in it. I do not recall how long it is, and I have the vague memory that it was not CD quality, but the music was enjoyable. And, not Abdo, but if you're into vintage, that could be a possibility. Good luck!

    Please, share what you decide to go with.
    Last edited by steffib; 02-08-2010 at 11:20 AM.


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Slight thread hijack-but it started as my thread! I'm 8 weeks today after hip replacement. While everyone around me has gone on and on about how great I'm doing I'm sinking into apathy. I still limp, still have trouble starting to walk, still wake up in pain-though the every minute of the day pain is gone and I walk without a cane so I have improved since before surgery.

    In my pre-op appt the surgeon said that I should recover 'for the most part' in a couple of weeks, so I figured I'd resume teaching/dancing etc. in January. That didn't happen. So, I figured Feb. Not yet. I have a dedicated group of students (6 of them), some of whom have been with me for several years. They have been very patient and supportive and really want me to come back to teach. But I don't want to shortchange them any more than I did last year so I want to be able to do everything that I should.

    That's on days that I don't contemplate going upstairs, putting price tags on all my dance things, and claiming retirement because I'm tired of fighting.

    Anyway, I see my surgeon for 2 month followup tomorrow If he says that I will continue to improve-and perhaps gives me some ideas on how to make that happen-then I'll spend the next 3 weeks doing up an entire routine with zill patters built in (yes, you're going to zill and I'm tired of arguing about it!), tempo and rhythm changes. I'm trying to wrap everything into an easy to follow format while I have the time to do it (I'm also unemployed since October).

    So, excuse the whining and wish me luck!


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    BTW, is the ciftitell sulukule that is actually a version of Mastika 4/4 or 9/8?

    We were watching a travel channel show (I forget which one) in which the host was in Istanbul. It was nicely done, but during the walk around section I suddenly realized, and remarked to my husband, "Hey! They're playing Saidi". What? They couldn't find a piece of Turkish music for a show on Turkey?


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Are you sure it's George Abdo you are thinking of and not Eddie Kochak? He did Rompi Rompi on his Night at the Casba CD.


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    No-but that's not a bad direction either! I only own 1 Kochak and it has a 9/8 but it's not Rompi. I'll see if I can find it.

    Thanks!


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Quote Originally Posted by kahaz View Post
    Slight thread hijack-but it started as my thread! I'm 8 weeks today after hip replacement. While everyone around me has gone on and on about how great I'm doing I'm sinking into apathy. I still limp, still have trouble starting to walk, still wake up in pain-though the every minute of the day pain is gone and I walk without a cane so I have improved since before surgery.

    In my pre-op appt the surgeon said that I should recover 'for the most part' in a couple of weeks, so I figured I'd resume teaching/dancing etc. in January. That didn't happen. So, I figured Feb. Not yet. I have a dedicated group of students (6 of them), some of whom have been with me for several years. They have been very patient and supportive and really want me to come back to teach. But I don't want to shortchange them any more than I did last year so I want to be able to do everything that I should.

    That's on days that I don't contemplate going upstairs, putting price tags on all my dance things, and claiming retirement because I'm tired of fighting.

    Anyway, I see my surgeon for 2 month followup tomorrow If he says that I will continue to improve-and perhaps gives me some ideas on how to make that happen-then I'll spend the next 3 weeks doing up an entire routine with zill patters built in (yes, you're going to zill and I'm tired of arguing about it!), tempo and rhythm changes. I'm trying to wrap everything into an easy to follow format while I have the time to do it (I'm also unemployed since October).

    So, excuse the whining and wish me luck!
    Not whining! Just to give you a little hope - had a hip replacement in 02, thought my yoga/dance (contemporary) days were done, and here I am dancing in restaurants with no pain. Except a little in the other hip LOL. Didn't take all those years to recover either, just to wake up and discover BD.


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Quote Originally Posted by kahaz View Post
    It CAN make you crazy, can't it? BTW, the end of 'Fantasy' is still NOT Rompi so I'm back where I started from. Back to the vintage drawing board!
    The end of Belly Dance Fantasy is Sulu Kule, or at least it's the same as the track which is labeled as Sulu Kule in the soundtrack from the film "Once Around". Apparently the track in the film was gotten by separating it from the Belly Dance Fantasy track. I bought four GA LPs in MP3 form from Amazon last night, but didn't end up with the track Sulukule.

    BTW, on amazon some of the George Abdo MP3s from the album The Art of Belly Dancing are mislabeled. "Nasam Alayna El-Hawa" and "Raks Gamal" are switched around, as are Gameel Gamal and Raks Pharonic. It's the same if you buy the individual MP3s from the list of his MP3s. The situation is the same at e-music.com for this LP.


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Quote Originally Posted by kahaz View Post
    Nope-I have that on CD and it's definately a generic 9/8. I remember a discussion that was specific to Rompi. I don't think it was seperate; I think it was the end of a 'routine'. Favor, please: will someone please go listen to the end of the 'Mustapha' routine on Art and tell me what it ends with? It's the one vinyl I haven't replaced.
    mustapha ends in a reprise of the openiong song, mustapha..belly dance fantasy ends in soule koule..sp


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    I believe this may be because when they put the LP album to CD, somehow they mixed up the track titles. (Don't know how, but they did.) So this is probably just a continuation/ furthering of the mistake. It's a shame, because unless you had and are familiar with the original album you would be totally unaware that the titles of the music are incorrect.

    Quote Originally Posted by spicedjellybeans View Post
    BTW, on amazon some of the George Abdo MP3s from the album The Art of Belly Dancing are mislabeled. "Nasam Alayna El-Hawa" and "Raks Gamal" are switched around, as are Gameel Gamal and Raks Pharonic. It's the same if you buy the individual MP3s from the list of his MP3s. The situation is the same at e-music.com for this LP.


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    Quote Originally Posted by steffib View Post
    Not sure whether that is any help, but there is in one of the Radio Bastet podcasts a very sweet routine that ends with Rompi, with other well-known tunes in it. I do not recall how long it is, and I have the vague memory that it was not CD quality, but the music was enjoyable. And, not Abdo, but if you're into vintage, that could be a possibility. Good luck!

    Please, share what you decide to go with.
    I was listening to #8 and 9 this weekend and heard it! I can't remember which one and can't find it now. But if you wanted t try t find it that narrows it down a bit lol


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    Re: George Abdo Rompi Rompi

    CD's hold more than a "record" so, yes..they put the same pictures from the albums on the CD's, they put more tracks on which threw off the #s....i it hard for me to concider any dancer not haveing these.


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