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    Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    Hi Guys,

    When restaurant dancing do you like to keep to the more classical or modern oriental instrumental tracks or do you like to use modern pop tracks or any shaabi tracks?

    Discuss :) x..g.:


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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    I think that would depend on who your audience is.


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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    Yep, depends on the audience and the restaurant. A ME restaurant frequented by Arabs - more traditional with a few pop songs thrown in. A ME or non-ME restaurant that has bellydancers and frequented by mostly Americans - more pop because it's more "fun" for them to listen to.


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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielabellydance View Post
    Yep, depends on the audience and the restaurant. A ME restaurant frequented by Arabs - more traditional with a few pop songs thrown in. A ME or non-ME restaurant that has bellydancers and frequented by mostly Americans - more pop because it's more "fun" for them to listen to.
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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    My entrances are nearly always to a classic orientale, and the rest of my show has one or more pop songs, depending on the environment/audience, followed by a drum solo.

    I don't usually try to 'dance' to the pop songs so much as i use them for working the crowd and getting the crowd up to dance. So if it's a fairly sedate environment, I'll do a lot more classic music and just one short pop song. If it's a lively place where lots of people will want to dance with me, I have a lot more pop.

    I wouldn't try to pull off a full-blown Om Kalthoum piece unless there was an actual stage or area set aside and I knew the audience would receive it well. Ditto anything more folkloric than baladi or saiidi.


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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielabellydance View Post
    Yep, depends on the audience and the restaurant. A ME restaurant frequented by Arabs - more traditional with a few pop songs thrown in. A ME or non-ME restaurant that has bellydancers and frequented by mostly Americans - more pop because it's more "fun" for them to listen to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren_ View Post
    My entrances are nearly always to a classic orientale, and the rest of my show has one or more pop songs, depending on the environment/audience, followed by a drum solo.
    I don't usually try to 'dance' to the pop songs so much as i use them for working the crowd and getting the crowd up to dance. So if it's a fairly sedate environment, I'll do a lot more classic music and just one short pop song. If it's a lively place where lots of people will want to dance with me, I have a lot more pop.
    I wouldn't try to pull off a full-blown Om Kalthoum piece unless there was an actual stage or area set aside and I knew the audience would receive it well. Ditto anything more folkloric than baladi or saiidi.
    Yes to all of the above.
    I always use an intro. Pop for me tends to be audience interaction (and sagat), although saidi sounding ones also for asaya. I always use a drum solo at the end, as well. What falls in between depends upon the audience and the venue.


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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    How do you change the set list on the fly?


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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    I don't 'dance' to pop music, ever. Meaning the first half of my show is traditional music, the second half, when I pick people out to dance, go around to audience may be pop.
    I have done it like this for 8 years so no matter where I was: restaurant, hookah lounge, club, party, etc. Now my songs will vary based on the audience somewhat, but this is is generally how I do it.

    I feel that you cannot dance to a pop song as well as you can dance to a more traditional piece, it just doesn't allow you to show off what you can do. Pop songs are better to use when you want some audience participation, it's easier for them to dance to do, and they won't feel so intimidated.


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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    Quote Originally Posted by anala View Post
    How do you change the set list on the fly?
    Most restaurants I already have an idea of what sort of audience to expect and what the owner/manager likes. I always have extra CDs with me, just in case.

    One venue it helps me a lot to be able to tailor the music to who is there, so it's kind of "bonus" that the CD player doesn't work well with my CDS. There are a lot of regulars- but from different Arab countries. It's a mixed age crowd- with quite a few family tables. After 4 years of being there though- of the regulars; I know who wants Oum Kolthoum, Abdel Halim, Khaliji, Iraqi, sha-abi, saidi etc. I have my ipod with me and make my "playlist on the go" different each week. At this point some of them have figured this out and will sometimes even make requests.


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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    Quote Originally Posted by SamiraShuruk View Post
    Most restaurants I already have an idea of what sort of audience to expect and what the owner/manager likes. I always have extra CDs with me, just in case.

    One venue it helps me a lot to be able to tailor the music to who is there, so it's kind of "bonus" that the CD player doesn't work well with my CDS. There are a lot of regulars- but from different Arab countries. It's a mixed age crowd- with quite a few family tables. After 4 years of being there though- of the regulars; I know who wants Oum Kolthoum, Abdel Halim, Khaliji, Iraqi, sha-abi, saidi etc. I have my ipod with me and make my "playlist on the go" different each week. At this point some of them have figured this out and will sometimes even make requests.
    I don't perform anymore but when I did have a gig where I had to bring my own music, I always carried CD's with different shows of varying lengths. I would have a pre-conceived idea of what I would want to do but occassionally a situation would come up which wasn't exactly like I expected.

    I'd always try to arrive early to assess the audience and the atmosphere of the party and match the music to fit.

    Ipods can make that task so much easier nowadasy.


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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    on the whole pop is the way to go, as most audiences here in the north west UK are not Arab....
    most restaurants are Turkish or Greek so music to match


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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    A mix of both. Even if the audience doesn't notice. I make sure that in my 15 minute set I have a "more traditional/classic" instrumental, an upbeat pop/fusion song, a taxim & a drum solo. Not in that order!


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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    Quote Originally Posted by shimarella View Post
    A mix of both. Even if the audience doesn't notice. I make sure that in my 15 minute set I have a "more traditional/classic" instrumental, an upbeat pop/fusion song, a taxim & a drum solo. Not in that order!
    Do you include a taxim for all you venues? I can think of many places I've danced at where it wouldn't fly - I think a taxim is something that needs a certain atmosphere to be appreciated. I can't imagine doing one in a loud hookah lounge, for instance.


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    Re: Restaurant Music - Traditional or Pop?

    what Lauren and Daniela said. although i sometimes end up dancing to pop by myself when it's nothing but sober Americans in the restaurant...... ^_~
    i'd also add that in addition to what nationality your audience is, age should be taken into consideration. A group of middle aged Lebanese immigrants will generally have different taste than their teenage kids who were born and raised in the USA/UK/Australia, etc.

    eta: the place i dance at wants fast music all the time, so we use different styles to break it up, full orchestra Egyptian entrance, Greek bouzuki, drum solo, pop. it's nice having things that are still fast, but are different enough that people who aren't used to BD music can tell the difference.
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